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Re: Show HN: Our alternative to recruiter spam

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Post by andy_adams »

chrislloyd wrote: post #92
andy_adams wrote: post #75

The salary ranges seem very high from my experience. I've been developing for a few years, and I know a handful of excellent developers working for big-name companies...and I know they're not making the numbers listed here. I want to believe $180k is doable for a software engineer, but I've yet to meet a salaried programmer over $110k. Am I keeping the wrong company? I should note I don't live in a major city, but ev…

They are very real. Perhaps you should sign up :P

If you are correct, I've been working for absolute peanuts the last few years :X.

Re: Show HN: Our alternative to recruiter spam

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Post by [deleted] »

spleeyah wrote: post #109
Peroni wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

25% is pretty standard across US, we're less then that with our flat rate. Fair comment however your flat fee equates to 25% of a $100k role. It doesn't become a viable economic alternative for employers until you reach the $150k mark. If your primary target is CTO level roles then great, otherwise your fee is ridiculous.

I think you might be underestimating the level of pay for developers in a lot of the "big" areas. (SF, Silicon Valley, NYC) I've personally heard of friends (fresh college grads) getting offers anywhere from $70k to $150k.

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Re: Show HN: Our alternative to recruiter spam

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Post by joshdotsmith »

Peroni wrote: post #113
spleeyah wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you might be underestimating the level of pay for developers in a lot of the "big" areas. (SF, Silicon Valley, NYC) I've personally heard of friends (fresh college grads) getting offers anywhere from $70k to $150k.

Fresh college grads getting $150k? I find that incredibly hard to believe.

This is not terribly hard to believe depending on what projects they have in their portfolio. I was getting offered jobs that paid upwards of $170k with 2 years' experience and no CS degree. I can only imagine what someone with Stanford CS and more projects would look like.

Re: Show HN: Our alternative to recruiter spam

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Post by jpatokal »

DGCA wrote: post #87

$25k is ridiculous, unless you make some guarantees, which you don't seem to do (wouldn't know, there's no relevant info for employers without signing up).

It's not $25k upfront for every potential hirer, it's $25k to the company that actually hires somebody.

Re: Show HN: Our alternative to recruiter spam

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Post by bitsweet »

andy_adams wrote: post #121
chrislloyd wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are very real. Perhaps you should sign up :P

If you are correct, I've been working for absolute peanuts the last few years :X.

These salary brackets are very real for US based developers.

Re: Show HN: Our alternative to recruiter spam

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Post by andy_adams »

bitsweet wrote: post #125
andy_adams wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are correct, I've been working for absolute peanuts the last few years :X.

These salary brackets are very real for US based developers.

If you could be so kind, could you clarify exactly who could expect these salaries? Are these entry/mid/senior level? 1, 5, 10 years experience? Top-tier developers only?

I ask because there are plenty of companies hiring at sub-$70k salaries and they're having no trouble filling their positions with decent programmers. Are the programmers I know selling themselves short, or is $140k for extraordinarily experienced and talented programmers only?

Re: Show HN: Our alternative to recruiter spam

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Post by jim_h »

Peroni wrote: post #81
bitsweet wrote: post #69

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There are a few things I dislike about recruiters that we aim to fix: * They nearly all are technically incompetent, e.g. thinking Java is the cool word for Javascript and such. We know the difference between interfaces and inheritance, being developers ourselves, we are better at understanding the needs of companies and matching that to the desires of developers. * Recruiters hide information, almost always. We're f…

Whilst I don't agree with the practice, the reason most recruiters are cagey about disclosing too much info on the company they represent is because they don't want the candidate to go to the company directly and saving the company $25k. How do you deal with that challenge? Look, I'm incredibly vocal about the need to disrupt the recruitment industry but from what I understand based on the discussion here, the differ…

They may have an exclusive contract with the company for that position, for a certain period of time.

Or maybe the company name (or contact details) is NOT part of what they will expose to the candidate.

Re: Show HN: Our alternative to recruiter spam

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Post by danielvinson »

Peroni wrote: post #113
spleeyah wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you might be underestimating the level of pay for developers in a lot of the "big" areas. (SF, Silicon Valley, NYC) I've personally heard of friends (fresh college grads) getting offers anywhere from $70k to $150k.

Fresh college grads getting $150k? I find that incredibly hard to believe.

As a fresh college grad from a non-top tier school in Silicon Valley, many of my friends are making ~$100K/year right out of school. I'm sure people from top tier schools going to Google and Facebook can make double that.

Re: Show HN: Our alternative to recruiter spam

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Post by rhizome »

xxpor wrote: post #98
navyrain wrote: post #67

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Of course, some people like working in offices; that was never disputed. However, there are an increasing number of organizations which have caught on that offices are not "software factories", but rather, an optional luxury.

I just think that we're not fighting for it because not that many of us really care. Not that I would be opposed to the option of course.

Maybe it seems like not many care because when someone mentions including the option they are shouted down like they're saying all workers should WFH.
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