Sorry, but what part of 'Stay anonymous ... 100% Private & confidential - Learn your market value without your current employer ever knowing' involves me giving you my name, current employer, current title, and email address in step 2? That's just down-right cognitive dissonance. The landing page doesn't give me enough assurance, but to get any more details, I have to click through. Or do you expect a curious candidate to read the two pages of legalese (Terms of Service, Privacy Policy)? Not saying we wouldn't, but that's sort of a slow, boring sell.
Show HN: Our alternative to recruiter spam
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Re: Show HN: Our alternative to recruiter spam
#102I'm currently hiring developers, and I also hate recruiters, for the reasons you outline. I was interested to learn about your flat $25K fee in the comments here, and I can tell you that I'd be unlikely to pay it. I have other ways to find developers that aren't so expensive. If I'd bothered to sign up after reading "It's free to get started" then learned later about the hefty fee, I'd be disappointed at best. Since…
Hey @DavidAdams, Our intentions are not to bait and switch and so far responses have been very positive. I believe most developers share your surprise when they hear about the overhead to hiring, I did. I appreciate that using outside help to build a team is not right for every stage company.
After looking at the dismal state of recruiting and the enormous typical placement fees that well exceed $25K on avg across the US for developer positions, we feel our pricing is comparatively low and the experience and results, superior.
We found that matchmaking developers and companies may seem like simple quick transactions, and many recruiters treat it that way, but the reality is it is a time intensive process to do it right.
(EDIT: typo)
Re: Show HN: Our alternative to recruiter spam
#103Sorry, but what part of 'Stay anonymous ... 100% Private & confidential - Learn your market value without your current employer ever knowing' involves me giving you my name, current employer, current title, and email address in step 2? That's just down-right cognitive dissonance. The landing page doesn't give me enough assurance, but to get any more details, I have to click through. Or do you expect a curious candida…
It is anonymous to the point that others don't know you are on Pitchbox. Your name isn't shared with anyone until you are matched with a company and you like the pitch and agree to sharing it.
It would be just to hard to send you personally relevant pitches without a little background information to incorporate in our matchmaking.
Re: Show HN: Our alternative to recruiter spam
#104I'm currently hiring developers, and I also hate recruiters, for the reasons you outline. I was interested to learn about your flat $25K fee in the comments here, and I can tell you that I'd be unlikely to pay it. I have other ways to find developers that aren't so expensive. If I'd bothered to sign up after reading "It's free to get started" then learned later about the hefty fee, I'd be disappointed at best. Since…
Hey @DavidAdams, Our intentions are not to bait and switch and so far responses have been very positive. I believe most developers share your surprise when they hear about the overhead to hiring, I did. I appreciate that using outside help to build a team is not right for every stage company. After looking at the dismal state of recruiting and the enormous typical placement fees that well exceed $25K on avg across th…
>the overheard to hiring
Did you mean overhead?
Moreover, it seems like you don't validate your form input at all. (Sorry about the entry. My email address is not really aa.)
Re: Show HN: Our alternative to recruiter spam
#105Good idea. Does that Cinema Display on their homepage also look odd to anyone else? https://d2221r371oqwhn.cloudfront.net/assets/feature-image-b...
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#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hey @DavidAdams, Our intentions are not to bait and switch and so far responses have been very positive. I believe most developers share your surprise when they hear about the overhead to hiring, I did. I appreciate that using outside help to build a team is not right for every stage company. After looking at the dismal state of recruiting and the enormous typical placement fees that well exceed $25K on avg across th…
>the overheard to hiring Did you mean overhead? Moreover, it seems like you don't validate your form input at all. (Sorry about the entry. My email address is not really aa.)
Validating email addresses via anything but verification links are a road to hell.
Re: Show HN: Our alternative to recruiter spam
#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wow, that's pretty steep. Maybe that's just a west coast thing. Where I live (Ohio) that's 50% of the salary of a developer with 5 years of experience. I signed up for your service but... that seems like a good chunk of change I'd prefer to have in my pocket :)
Wow, that's pretty steep. Maybe that's just a west coast thing. I don't think most developers realize how much recruiters are getting paid for placements. 25% is pretty standard across US, we're less then that with our flat rate. Where I live (Ohio) that's 50% of the salary of a developer with 5 years of experience. This is why we built this product - assuming you are even remotely decent at programming and write cod…
Have you considered the possibility that charging a flat fee instead of a percentage of annual salary makes your service inappropriate for most areas outside of silicon valley or NYC?
Re: Show HN: Our alternative to recruiter spam
#108Maybe my liberal arts major is showing, but I keep reading your URL as 'triptych box'.
Re: Show HN: Our alternative to recruiter spam
#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wow, that's pretty steep. Maybe that's just a west coast thing. I don't think most developers realize how much recruiters are getting paid for placements. 25% is pretty standard across US, we're less then that with our flat rate. Where I live (Ohio) that's 50% of the salary of a developer with 5 years of experience. This is why we built this product - assuming you are even remotely decent at programming and write cod…
25% is pretty standard across US, we're less then that with our flat rate. Fair comment however your flat fee equates to 25% of a $100k role. It doesn't become a viable economic alternative for employers until you reach the $150k mark. If your primary target is CTO level roles then great, otherwise your fee is ridiculous.
I think you might be underestimating the level of pay for developers in a lot of the "big" areas. (SF, Silicon Valley, NYC) I've personally heard of friends (fresh college grads) getting offers anywhere from $70k to $150k.
Re: Show HN: Our alternative to recruiter spam
#110Hi HN. We were tired of recruiters so we built this because it was something we wish existed. We had "satisfying" jobs and liked who we worked with but we were not naive and knew there could be a better job out there. Either building a product more aligned with our personal interests, making more doing something we enjoyed even more, or work with a team that challenged us further. It was too time consuming to activel…
Good work! However, there is no mention of telecommuting/remote positions. Even as a US worker, I prefer remote work, and it baffles me that us "internet folk" are not working hard to fight the industrial-era assumption that software has to be written in a central office.
Well, given that the Agile cult demands colocation in a single office along with all sorts of other one size fits all cargo cultisms, what do you expect?
In my case, I prefer to not get in the way of my enemy while he's making mistakes.