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Re: Host me in California

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Post by Mahn » Mon, Jan 07, 2013, 4:30 PM UTC

cadab wrote: post #8

UnoriginalGuy wrote: post #7

That page causes Chrome to lag. I would also say that if that page was any longer or any more information dense then it wouldn't work as a thing. It only works because there is so little content. In general it depends what you're trying to sell. I've never actually purchased from one of these "flow" pages, but I have purchased a lot from more boring product pages like this: http://www.linode.com/tour/ The OP's sales…

Website loads fine (no lag) on Chrome Win8 for me.

Chrome 23 + Win7 here, page was fine and had no scroll lag whatsoever.

Re: Host me in California

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Post by Codhisattva » Mon, Jan 07, 2013, 4:30 PM UTC

He's done a great job and presented his information quite well. As an adult and a father I'd say that I represent his target market perfectly and he succeeded in: a) impressing me with his ability and determination, b) delivering to me the kind of information I need to know and c) delivering to me a sense of his maturity.

Not only do I think he would be a great guest but I can see him being very successful with whatever career path he chooses.

So is it a better sales page than you? Yes indeed, information delivered.

Re: Host me in California

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Post by b0rsuk » Mon, Jan 07, 2013, 4:30 PM UTC

This 16yo boy from eastern europe has a better sales page than you (hostmeinca.com)

503 Service Temporarily Unavailable

It looks like a cruel joke.

Re: Host me in California

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Post by sisk » Mon, Jan 07, 2013, 4:35 PM UTC

lifeisstillgood wrote: post #53

Can anyone with JS debugger experience (I am learning to fight the Chrome debugger now) tell me how to identify what is causing that terrible lag Partly it would be nice to let the poor kid know, partly I want to know how to fix such issues as they inevitably crop up for me. (CPU measures seem not to point to anything useful) (If the answer is take stuff away till it works, well, why have a debugger?)

I'm on my phone so all I can see is a jquery mobile-based site but, given some of the comments, I assume he's probably overloaded the scroll event. That event fires _a lot_ so if you load it up with too much logic or attach too many listeners, you get some nasty lag (think "New Twitter"). You're better off attaching a single listener that does some light action like setting a variable (`didScroll = true`) and an interval timer (every 50ms is fine) that checks that variable and performs some logic as a result.

John Resig wrote up an article about this very probably several years back. If curious, I can dig it up.

Re: Host me in California

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Post by tehwalrus » Mon, Jan 07, 2013, 4:37 PM UTC

jwr wrote: post #39

digitalengineer wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But us Western European people think of everything at the right of Germany and Austria as "Eastern Europe" because of the Iron Curtain and all. I suppose it's culural.

It's been more than 20 years now since the Iron Curtain lifted, so I guess people might as well start getting used to the idea that old divisions no longer make sense.

There are still significant Economic and Cultural differences, though.

(no, I'm not generalising, talk to a Czech citizen about their Soviet-era banking sector...I imagine the Slovak system is in a similar shape.)

Re: Host me in California

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Post by asciimo » Mon, Jan 07, 2013, 4:41 PM UTC

A good sales pitch will clearly explain what I will get in exchange for my time and resources. I don't see value described anywhere on his page. I can only speculate that maybe I will learn something about Slovakia.

Re: Host me in California

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Post by fl3tch » Mon, Jan 07, 2013, 4:43 PM UTC

waitwhat wrote: post #33

He appears to have made zero sales. By most metrics, this is not a "better sales page".

The cost of hosting someone for a year is pretty high.

If you become a yacht salesman, are you expected to sell one on the first day? Are you a failure because someone else sold a hundred hot dogs?

Re: Host me in California

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Post by j2kun » Mon, Jan 07, 2013, 4:47 PM UTC

laumars wrote: post #37

UnoriginalGuy wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just to be clear, I wasn't trying to bash the kid. I like his site, and he makes a great sales pitch. My comment was more aimed at the OP's assertion that this sales page is "better" than other sales pages.

I wasn't meaning to imply you were bashing the kid (though now you've mentioned it, I can see how my post may have read that way). Sorry for the confusion :)

HN readers are so polite!

Re: Host me in California

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Post by optymizer » Mon, Jan 07, 2013, 4:52 PM UTC

UnoriginalGuy wrote: post #7

That page causes Chrome to lag. I would also say that if that page was any longer or any more information dense then it wouldn't work as a thing. It only works because there is so little content. In general it depends what you're trying to sell. I've never actually purchased from one of these "flow" pages, but I have purchased a lot from more boring product pages like this: http://www.linode.com/tour/ The OP's sales…

Chrome 23 on Mac - no issues with scrolling.

Re: Host me in California

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Post by waitwhat » Mon, Jan 07, 2013, 4:54 PM UTC

fl3tch wrote: post #67

waitwhat wrote: post #33

He appears to have made zero sales. By most metrics, this is not a "better sales page".

The cost of hosting someone for a year is pretty high. If you become a yacht salesman, are you expected to sell one on the first day? Are you a failure because someone else sold a hundred hot dogs?

I wouldn't be a failure, but I certainly wouldn't be claiming (as the original submission title did, now thankfully fixed by the mods) that I was a better yacht salesman than you if I had never even sold a yacht.