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Re: Reeddit - Minimalist, elastic and read-only web app client for Reddit

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Post by DanBC »

cryptoz wrote: post #38
Karunamon wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Software won't fix these major problems. They're issues with the community itself. Each sub is its own community. If you're having troubles like you mentioned above, you haven't found the right ones yet.

That's not a legitimate way of thinking about the problem, though. Some of the communities in question are very large and powerful places; making a popular comment there can have a large impact on a huge number of people's lives. And many of the subreddits are run by totalitarian dictators, so you end up with large and powerful subreddits that are curated by crazy moderators. It's not about finding the "right communi…

> And many of the subreddits are run by totalitarian dictators, so you end up with large and powerful subreddits that are curated by crazy moderators.

You might want to consider posting to /r/drama or /r/subredditdrama .

Re: Reeddit - Minimalist, elastic and read-only web app client for Reddit

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Post by mosselman »

redwood wrote: post #42

Honestly IMO the biggest problem with reddit's subreddit UX is that you can't choose the ratio of which subreddits are most important to you. Unfortunately you're not really fixing that... I think that would be more powerful than showing groups of subreddits. In other words, I should be able to say "I want 30% of my links to come from r/worldnews, 10% from r/science, 5% each from r/biology, r/programming, r/chemistry…

It seems to me that you do not want to be able to say that. You want to see relevant and interesting posts.

Re: Reeddit - Minimalist, elastic and read-only web app client for Reddit

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Post by PommeDeTerre »

rmc wrote: post #76
cryptoz wrote: post #37

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> This is a good thing. No, it's not. The moderators of r/conservative think that climate change is a hoax. If you write an on-topic, polite comment that even suggests that climate change is real, you will be banned . This is a terrible, terrible way to run a community. The conservatives on reddit live in a bubble where all science is banned. It's not a positive state of affairs. (Edit: I'm not conservative, but I fr…

Counter-example: The mods of r/lgbt think there is nothing wrong with homosexuality. If you write an on-topic, polite comment that even suggests that there is something wrong with homosexuality, you will be banned. The mods of r/transgender think think there is nothing wrong with trans gender identities. If you write an on-topic, polite comment that even suggests that trans women are "men in skirts", you will be bann…

I don't think you should be fine with it. It's wrong for groups like those you've mentioned to decry intolerance when they're the victims, only to turn around and deliver intolerance to some other group of people. It's hypocritical, and it's counterproductive.

Instead of banning the detractors, they should try welcoming them into the community, and maybe even try to understand them and their viewpoints better. They may not change the attitudes of those with differing opinions, but at least they won't have made the situation worse by introducing more intolerance.

Re: Reeddit - Minimalist, elastic and read-only web app client for Reddit

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Post by redwood »

mosselman wrote: post #82
redwood wrote: post #42

Honestly IMO the biggest problem with reddit's subreddit UX is that you can't choose the ratio of which subreddits are most important to you. Unfortunately you're not really fixing that... I think that would be more powerful than showing groups of subreddits. In other words, I should be able to say "I want 30% of my links to come from r/worldnews, 10% from r/science, 5% each from r/biology, r/programming, r/chemistry…

It seems to me that you do not want to be able to say that. You want to see relevant and interesting posts.

I've been on reddit long enough to know that in order to see what I consider interesting, requires a balance of what others (e.g. subreddits) consider interesting. However I have varying levels of interest in them, and some are small and cannot compete...

Re: Reeddit - Minimalist, elastic and read-only web app client for Reddit

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Post by graue »

PommeDeTerre wrote: post #83
rmc wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Counter-example: The mods of r/lgbt think there is nothing wrong with homosexuality. If you write an on-topic, polite comment that even suggests that there is something wrong with homosexuality, you will be banned. The mods of r/transgender think think there is nothing wrong with trans gender identities. If you write an on-topic, polite comment that even suggests that trans women are "men in skirts", you will be bann…

I don't think you should be fine with it. It's wrong for groups like those you've mentioned to decry intolerance when they're the victims, only to turn around and deliver intolerance to some other group of people. It's hypocritical, and it's counterproductive. Instead of banning the detractors, they should try welcoming them into the community, and maybe even try to understand them and their viewpoints better. They m…

I believe (and hope) your critique is well-intentioned, but just think about it a little more. If you are a trans person, a very significant amount of the population probably treats you like you are weird or a freak. You could be verbally harassed, denied employment or in extreme cases, even be a target of violence, just for something that's part of your identity.

If you were in that situation, wouldn't you want to have a safe space to talk to people who understand? To not have to deal with justifying your identity to people? Is it really "intolerance" just to want a place you can feel safe?

Now as a cis person I have never had to deal with the issues described, but I can empathize. What you are saying makes abstract sense and would be fine in a world where everything was fair and everyone was truly treated equally. However, that's not the world we live in. I urge you to reflect a bit more on this.

Re: Reeddit - Minimalist, elastic and read-only web app client for Reddit

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Post by baddox »

knocknock wrote: post #64
redwood wrote: post #42

Honestly IMO the biggest problem with reddit's subreddit UX is that you can't choose the ratio of which subreddits are most important to you. Unfortunately you're not really fixing that... I think that would be more powerful than showing groups of subreddits. In other words, I should be able to say "I want 30% of my links to come from r/worldnews, 10% from r/science, 5% each from r/biology, r/programming, r/chemistry…

I agree that this is a huge problem that reddit has. I hardly ever see any stories on my frontpage from the smaller subreddits I subscribe to.

Really? I have had the opposite experience: if I subscribe to a small an mostly inactive subreddit, I notice what I consider to be too many links from that subreddit on the front page.

Re: Reeddit - Minimalist, elastic and read-only web app client for Reddit

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Post by PommeDeTerre »

graue wrote: post #86
PommeDeTerre wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think you should be fine with it. It's wrong for groups like those you've mentioned to decry intolerance when they're the victims, only to turn around and deliver intolerance to some other group of people. It's hypocritical, and it's counterproductive. Instead of banning the detractors, they should try welcoming them into the community, and maybe even try to understand them and their viewpoints better. They m…

I believe (and hope) your critique is well-intentioned, but just think about it a little more. If you are a trans person, a very significant amount of the population probably treats you like you are weird or a freak. You could be verbally harassed, denied employment or in extreme cases, even be a target of violence, just for something that's part of your identity. If you were in that situation, wouldn't you want to h…

I understand that certain groups of people will face animosity from others. This affects all sorts of groups of people, in many different situations. Yes, this is just reality.

Blatant hypocrisy will never help improve the situation, however. One group of people who complain about being ostracized when they're in the minority should not turn around and ostracize others when they're in the majority.

Banning people they disagree with from a rather public forum like a subreddit, for example, only hurts their cause and their reputation. It creates more animosity. Denying the basic ability of one to express himself or herself is just not justifiable.

Re: Reeddit - Minimalist, elastic and read-only web app client for Reddit

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Post by mistermann »

jlgreco wrote: post #75
frozenport wrote: post #60

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Also that r/atheism keeps up-voting itself. As a Atheist from birth I find them obnoxious and repetitive.

Wait, what does "up-voting itself" mean? Do people that use the numerous cat subreddits not vote for cat pictures? I am under the impression the point of subreddits is to allow you to subscribe or not subscribe, so why not just not subscribe to r/atheism? That's how I use it anyway.

The problem is when you are browsing /r/all and there are so many articles from certain subreddits (trees,gonewild,gaming,etc) - certain subreddits are a circlejerk of upvoting, trees being the worst, and afaik there is no way to block these subreddits when browsing /r/all.

Re: Reeddit - Minimalist, elastic and read-only web app client for Reddit

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Post by mistermann »

redthrowaway wrote: post #65
pekk wrote: post #58

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Moderation on the basis of ideological purity does not produce "quality content," just an artificial ideological uniformity.

I've been a redditor for something like 4 years. I've read thousands of complaints about Nazi mods banning people they disagree with. Upon closer inspection, I've found the vast majority of those who were banned deserved it. In only a handful of cases have I seen mods who legitimately were trying to censor opinions they disagreed with. People have a tendency to hide behind the principle of free speech as if it were a…

Its not so much the moderators, its the downvotes. Reddit, imho, has a very particular and narrow opinion on many subjects - disagree with this opinion, even in legitimate good faith of open discussion, and your comment will be buried within minutes. The masses in the community have really lost their way.
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