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Cheddar is For Sale

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Re: Cheddar is For Sale

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To answer a question on the page: "I'm not sure how transferring apps from one Apple ID to another works. We can figure it out though." I'm fairly sure this is impossible. I know people (with large apps and the right contacts) that have tried, and never heard of it being possible. Unless something changed recently. You could transfer the account (unless other apps are also on it).

It's been possible for awhile. It involves talking to people at apple developer support.

Re: Cheddar is For Sale

#32
>This price is $125,000. I think that's a steal for what you get... If you were to hire me or anyone else to make Cheddar for you, it would be much more expensive.

Not to be a jerk. I really wish you well. But I'm curious: it would cost over $100k to make a todo list app? I would think that would be one of the simplest apps you could possibly make. Am I missing something?

[hmm... didn't see that your rate was $1000/hour. That answers part of my question.]

Re: Cheddar is For Sale

#33

Does he really charge $1000/hour or is it a joke I didn't get? http://hire.samsoff.es/ edit: explanation http://soff.es/one-thousand-dollars-an-hour By that rate and the 800-hour figure, Cheddar would be one of the most expensive apps ever (utility vs cost).

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Re: Cheddar is For Sale

#34

Does he really charge $1000/hour or is it a joke I didn't get? http://hire.samsoff.es/ edit: explanation http://soff.es/one-thousand-dollars-an-hour By that rate and the 800-hour figure, Cheddar would be one of the most expensive apps ever (utility vs cost).

Thats funny. You must not work in the 'apps for government agencies' space. :)

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#35
This is something I've experienced first-hand, and an extremely valuable lesson for people thinking about starting a startup. At a low average monthly cost (say less than $30), it's really damn hard to get enough people into your funnel for a reasonable cost of acquisition. And you need to reach a LOT of people for your service to be a significant source of long term income.

If you're about to start a startup, I'd strongly encourage you to come up with some hypothetical figures for these metrics:

* Number of monthly uniques

* Percentage that will convert to trial

* Percentage that will convert to paid

* Average monthly subscription cost

* Churn rate

* Cost of acquisition

You'll be way off, but run the numbers you've made up past as many experienced founders as you can, and you might be able to come up with a model that's semi-realistic. Of course it will evolve over time as you get some real data and more experience, but the main point of the exercise is to then ask yourself questions like: "How can I get X0,000 uniques to my marketing site on a $0 marketing budget?", and "What can I change about my product/positioning/target market so I can triple my average monthly subscription cost?".

Re: Cheddar is For Sale

#36
post #32

>This price is $125,000. I think that's a steal for what you get... If you were to hire me or anyone else to make Cheddar for you, it would be much more expensive. Not to be a jerk. I really wish you well. But I'm curious: it would cost over $100k to make a todo list app? I would think that would be one of the simplest apps you could possibly make. Am I missing something? [hmm... didn't see that your rate was $1000/h…

I don't mind him charging that price to

- Lawyers

- Dentists

- Doctors

- Notarys

But charging $1000/h for making trivial things is making the rest of us look bad. Especially when people do projects with 10000000 times the difficulty... for free.

Re: Cheddar is For Sale

#37
Sam - how's the $1000/hr consulting going? In your original post you mentioned that it was intended to supplement your income while working on Cheddar. Are you going to continue consulting now that you're selling Cheddar?

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#38
post #36
post #32

>This price is $125,000. I think that's a steal for what you get... If you were to hire me or anyone else to make Cheddar for you, it would be much more expensive. Not to be a jerk. I really wish you well. But I'm curious: it would cost over $100k to make a todo list app? I would think that would be one of the simplest apps you could possibly make. Am I missing something? [hmm... didn't see that your rate was $1000/h…

I don't mind him charging that price to - Lawyers - Dentists - Doctors - Notarys But charging $1000/h for making trivial things is making the rest of us look bad. Especially when people do projects with 10000000 times the difficulty... for free.

If people are actually paying him $1000/hr regularly then it is making us look bad, but only because we are allowing ourselves to be so woefully underpaid. However, I suspect (but don't know) that he isn't being paid $1000/hr regularly (let's say for more than 3 hrs a week on average, which would be regular enough for most folks at that rate).

Re: Cheddar is For Sale

#39
post #36
post #32

>This price is $125,000. I think that's a steal for what you get... If you were to hire me or anyone else to make Cheddar for you, it would be much more expensive. Not to be a jerk. I really wish you well. But I'm curious: it would cost over $100k to make a todo list app? I would think that would be one of the simplest apps you could possibly make. Am I missing something? [hmm... didn't see that your rate was $1000/h…

I don't mind him charging that price to - Lawyers - Dentists - Doctors - Notarys But charging $1000/h for making trivial things is making the rest of us look bad. Especially when people do projects with 10000000 times the difficulty... for free.

Especially when people do projects with 10000000 times the difficulty... for free.

Thats imho the wrong way to look at compensation. People are not being paid by the difficulty of their projects but by the value of the problems they solve. Being a construction worker is certainly a lot more physically demanding than an office job. Still they are (usually) paid a lot less because they are easier replaceable, less training, etc.

Re: Cheddar is For Sale

#40
post #36
post #32

>This price is $125,000. I think that's a steal for what you get... If you were to hire me or anyone else to make Cheddar for you, it would be much more expensive. Not to be a jerk. I really wish you well. But I'm curious: it would cost over $100k to make a todo list app? I would think that would be one of the simplest apps you could possibly make. Am I missing something? [hmm... didn't see that your rate was $1000/h…

I don't mind him charging that price to - Lawyers - Dentists - Doctors - Notarys But charging $1000/h for making trivial things is making the rest of us look bad. Especially when people do projects with 10000000 times the difficulty... for free.

Then you or they shouldn't do this for free. Put a price up front and treat the relationship as a business. Otherwise people will take advantage of you for free. But people will pay if there's a great need for the product or service
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