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An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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Re: An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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Post by sbuk »

rogerbinns wrote: post #296

My huge problem with iOS (and Apple in general) is the obsession with constantly making you enter passwords. Sometimes it gets so overwhelming that I am convinced the codebase mainly consists of password entering routines interspersed with small bits of other functionality. iOS's inability to share between apps also means usernames and passwords have to be constantly re-entered there too (eg every app that supports D…

This is simply not true. Also the language you are using is deliberately incendiary.

Re: An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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Post by rogerbinns »

el_cuadrado wrote: post #313
rogerbinns wrote: post #296

My huge problem with iOS (and Apple in general) is the obsession with constantly making you enter passwords. Sometimes it gets so overwhelming that I am convinced the codebase mainly consists of password entering routines interspersed with small bits of other functionality. iOS's inability to share between apps also means usernames and passwords have to be constantly re-entered there too (eg every app that supports D…

I, for one, would like to have more passwords in iOS. Like password-protecting my email app, file sharing app, and others.

Do you mean different passwords for different services (eg a specific password for Apple email versus a different password for iTunes store?) or that you want access to individual apps password protected?

For the latter Android has the concept of multiple users but only on tablets. It isn't that useful as you can't for example create limited access guest accounts, only full blown ones. And software can't be made accessible the new users unless they create a google account in order to access the play store, even if already installed. It also turned off face recognition for me.

The one thing Android did get right (but not perfect) is having a central account manager. Any service can add itself - for example the Github and Dropbox apps do. Any app (with permissions) can request access to accounts that require user interaction to confirm. However the app does not get a password, but instead a token that has to be periodically renewed.

Re: An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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Post by sbuk »

hdevalence wrote: post #134
dasil003 wrote: post #29

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I have to agree with this sentiment. My wife has a 4S, but when I needed to upgrade my phone last spring, I didn't want to buy an iPhone mid-cycle. I got the Galaxy Nexus and was pleasantly surprised in all aspects. With ICS and especially JB, Android has really closed the gap to the point where I'm actually glad I don't have an iPhone because I'm a big Google ecosystem user and the better Gmail and Calendar apps tip…

> GT is clearly inferior in build quality I've dropped mine (which does not have a case) from chest-height onto brick, down a flight of stairs onto tile, and onto the road while biking at a moderate speed (maybe 15-20 km/h). It has some dents on the side but the screen is totally fine. I rather doubt the iPhone would survive the same.

http://youtu.be/6M5q5TRuAsY

Re: An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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Post by desas »

WickyNilliams wrote: post #201
desas wrote: post #79

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1. Is Samsung specific I think. On my Nexus S pulling the notification drawer down has a button that launches the Settings app but doesn't have the settings right there. My wifes Samsung S3 does however.

My Nexus 4 has this feature by default, perhaps it was a Jelly Bean addition? Very much like having it there since getting my N4, I used to use a 3rd party widget for this purpose (powerstrip if anyone is interested), but it's largely been superseded by this (even though powerstrip is still great)

My Nexus S runs JB, this feature must just not be enabled on this phone for some reason

Re: An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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Post by buster »

shinratdr wrote: post #317
yareally wrote: post #307

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Yeah, if you're comparing those two things, I'd agree it's about the same difficulty to access either. Normally, I just look at my lockscreen though if i want the weather ( https://dl.dropbox.com/u/24904191/2013-01-05%2000.45.21.png ). I'm using Cyanogen 10 in that screen shot before lockscreen widgets, so that wouldn't be found on stock Android, but I assume there's some sort of lockscreen widget for 4.2 that can do…

True. For the record I'm in favour of using device's lockscreen for more, that does feel like wasted space that could be used for more at-a-glance information. When the iOS jailbreak rolls around for my current model I typically hop on board and install LockInfo so I can have twitter & weather at a glance. The thing is though I don't really miss it when I don't have it, it's just a nice extra when it's available so i…

I always felt like the lockscreen itself is a total waste. Most people don't use complex security mechanism on it but rather some slide stuff and why? It wasn't possible to disable the lockscreen for a while but at least now it's possible to disable. It never turns on by accident and i'm right in my homescreen, much better (imo)! :)

Re: An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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Post by pi18n »

nicholassmith wrote: post #172
pi18n wrote: post #151

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Launching other apps can be done by any app right now, but the app package needs some info saying the app is able to handle a certain data type or open a certain URL protocol. I am an Objective-C developer and I love the SDKs on the iPhone, but I am just so tired of Apple's bullshit regarding using our devices the way we want to. I'm tired of waiting for them to enable basic features like phone number black/whitelist…

"I'm tired of waiting for them to enable basic features like phone number black/whitelists." Keep in mind that's a basic feature for you , not necessarily for all . I wouldn't use it, so I'd prefer Apple to work on X/Y/Z feature instead. Feature priority is hard to work out at the best of times, because no matter what gets picked someone will be disappointed.

What you're arguing against is not the point of my statement.

If the vendor does not implement something like that, it should still be available as a third-party software. It doesn't need to be a security problem using a system like permissions. If they had a reasonable system there would be multiple options for blacklists.

I'm not irritated that they choose to implement feature X over feature Y, I am irritated because there's no way to implement feature Y at all without their most holy consent.

Something like a blacklist is simple and useful, why can't we have it? Why can't we have mobile interpreters for our scripting languages? Why can't we have apps that download articles while we sleep, without us babysitting the phone to make sure they are open, and add them to a reading list?

It's a small computer. It's ridiculous to restrict it as it is.

Re: An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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Post by mmahemoff »

reidmain wrote: post #270
mmahemoff wrote: post #49

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Yes, inter-app communication is a major difference for developers. On iOS, apps will say "Supports Twitter and Facebook" and the developers have hand-written the integrations; on Android, the app integrates with whatever the user has installed and the developer does no work at all to integrate with any specific service or app. So it's a win for developers as well as users.

Twitter and Facebook is integrated at a OS level with iOS. A few lines of code gets me access to the user's accounts (with their permission of course).

Bad examples :). Try Buffer and App.Net instead.

Re: An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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Post by gregsq »

ghshephard wrote: post #308
nathanstitt wrote: post #297

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Yup, that's my list as well. Android users will tell you that battery life is not an issue anymore but that hasn't been my experience at all. I think that it's a case of you can get good battery life as long as you don't take full advantage of most of the Android features. In particular GPS based apps are horrible on Android, most of them seem to poll constantly. The article talks up the app data sharing, but I haven…

As a diehard iPhone User (Original, 3G, 3GS, 4, 4s, 5) - I'd like to point out that the iPhone isn't without it's "GPS Battery sin" also. 90% of the time when my battery goes crashing to zero (while simultaneously heating up the chassis), it's some crappy (or even quality) Application sucking on the GPS in the background without me wanting it to. DarkSky (Weather App) has been a bad culprit recently, but there have b…

The closest I've seen, though I haven't really looked hard and it's not a full analysis, is Battery Doctor by Kingsoft, which shows current draw for apps, both active and inactive, and system. It's only good for hints, and if there's something better I'd like to know about it.

Re: An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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Post by reidmain »

mmahemoff wrote: post #328
reidmain wrote: post #270

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Twitter and Facebook is integrated at a OS level with iOS. A few lines of code gets me access to the user's accounts (with their permission of course).

Bad examples :). Try Buffer and App.Net instead.

So what happens in Android with those apps? Your app opens your App.net client of choice?
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