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An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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Re: An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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Post by w1ntermute »

robmcm wrote: post #91
w1ntermute wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you kidding me? The iPhone has the optimal width? You sound just like Marco, Gruber, and all those other Apple sycophants who were claiming that the iPhone size was perfect for the hand, until the iPhone 5 came out, of course. Just like they got their thumbs surgically altered when the 5 came out, no doubt you will be getting all your pockets resized if Apple increases the iPhone width.

I still think the iPhone 4 & The iPhone 5 compromises to make the screen bigger, but only by a little. I don't think I could use a 4" device like a Nexus 4 (I have a Nexus S which was a good size), on my commute where I need to hold onto a handle of the train, underground with one hand, smartphone in other.

> I still think the iPhone 4 &Yes, I can. It's complete bullshit. All the arguments for why the iPhone 4 form factor was the best are now being used to claim that the iPhone 5 is the best by a lot of the same people. That just goes to show that you can manipulate that argument to work with whatever screen size you want.

Re: An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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Post by w1ntermute »

taligent wrote: post #106
w1ntermute wrote: post #66

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I hate the bouncing scroll - yet another example of Apple's idiotic focus on skeuomorphism. I like to scroll up when I'm at the top of a list, or down when I'm at the bottom, while reading an article or whatever. If that bouncing scroll thing existed in Android, the page would move as a result. That's not a problem with the highlight.

> Apple's idiotic focus on skeuomorphism I fail to see how it has anything at all to do with skeuomorphism. What object exists in real life that is comparable to a bounce back scrolling list ?

There are plenty of objects that will bounce back in real life if you throw them at a wall or floor.

Re: An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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Post by micampe »

w1ntermute wrote: post #70
pagliara wrote: post #10

Interesting. I too am an iPhone lover who recently picked up a Nexus 4 to get into Android development. This is my first experience with Android, so I didn't realize that the Nexus 4 Android experience might be different than your typical Android smartphone. I was very impressed with the overall experience. If I wasn't so used to iOS, I could easily see myself using Android on a Nexus 4. But in the end, I walked away…

Are you kidding me? The iPhone has the optimal width? You sound just like Marco, Gruber, and all those other Apple sycophants who were claiming that the iPhone size was perfect for the hand, until the iPhone 5 came out, of course. Just like they got their thumbs surgically altered when the 5 came out, no doubt you will be getting all your pockets resized if Apple increases the iPhone width.

It's still true. The larger screen is nice but the 4 was more comfortable to hold and use.

Re: An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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Post by hdevalence »

dasil003 wrote: post #29
StavrosK wrote: post #20

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Odd, I got a Galaxy Nexus and it's the best phone I've ever had. To each his own, I guess.

I have to agree with this sentiment. My wife has a 4S, but when I needed to upgrade my phone last spring, I didn't want to buy an iPhone mid-cycle. I got the Galaxy Nexus and was pleasantly surprised in all aspects. With ICS and especially JB, Android has really closed the gap to the point where I'm actually glad I don't have an iPhone because I'm a big Google ecosystem user and the better Gmail and Calendar apps tip…

> GT is clearly inferior in build quality

I've dropped mine (which does not have a case) from chest-height onto brick, down a flight of stairs onto tile, and onto the road while biking at a moderate speed (maybe 15-20 km/h). It has some dents on the side but the screen is totally fine. I rather doubt the iPhone would survive the same.

Re: An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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Post by w1ntermute »

robmcm wrote: post #96
w1ntermute wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate the bouncing scroll - yet another example of Apple's idiotic focus on skeuomorphism. I like to scroll up when I'm at the top of a list, or down when I'm at the bottom, while reading an article or whatever. If that bouncing scroll thing existed in Android, the page would move as a result. That's not a problem with the highlight.

We all know that Android would have this if it wasn't for patents. You can't scroll without the page moving... so I don't understand your point. Plus if you are scrolling slowly and reading as you go, having a litte bit of background show (part of the effect) is little difference from showing a flash of colour.

> We all know that Android would have this if it wasn't for patents.

No, we don't. Maybe it would, maybe it wouldn't. Now that there is a viable alternative that people are used to, I don't think bouncing would be used if the patent were to be invalidated tomorrow.

The only reason to use the bounceback early on was because (a) no alternatives had been developed yet and bounceback was adequate, and (b) it appeased all the early adopter Apple fanbois.

> Plus if you are scrolling slowly and reading as you go, having a litte bit of background show (part of the effect) is little difference from showing a flash of colour.

You completely missed my point. It has nothing to do with scrolling while reading. It only has to do with when I'm at the top or bottom of a page/list.

Re: An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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Post by ricw »

greggman wrote: post #38
w0utert wrote: post #6

I agree with what the article says about sharing data between applications, this really is one of the biggest pain points of iOS right now. Fortunately, it looks like Apple will finally address this in the future, iOS 6 already has infrastructure in place to allow for remote view controllers that (in theory) should allow any application to register itself to handle certain data and events. Right now seems to be only…

I haven't read the article but I was an iPhone3 for a year, nexus 1 for a year, nexus s for a year and now iPhone 4S for a year. Things I still miss: I still miss that android apps can download in the background so for example when I wake up I the morning any new podcasts I'm subscribed to are already on the phone. Contrast to iOS6 where I have to remember to manually run the app. Which generally means I only run it…

The downside of auto-downloading is that your tablet/phone will run out of battery much faster than on iOS. iOS has stand by times of weeks (31 days?), which is wonderful. My nexus 7 runs dry after days, arguably because of the apps I use, or because the OS allows them. I'm unsure which I prefer, though I'd like to be able to configure a trade-off between the two myself..

Re: An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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Post by bane »

micampe wrote: post #124
bane wrote: post #86

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The coolest bit is that I can install both of these on my phone and tablet (which is back at home and not with me) right now via the links you just shared without having to interact with either device.

What's funny is that this feature gets often pointed out as one of the cool Android exclusives, but iOS has it too: you just need to turn on Automatic Downloads in the store settings, it works for apps as well as media and books purchased from the store. It's more limited, in that it will download all purchases made on any other device (or iTunes) connected to the same account, but it seems like very few people are a…

If it works more or less the same then I happily stand corrected.

Re: An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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Post by [deleted] »

josteink wrote: post #28
lucian1900 wrote: post #13

> While Android still doesn’t give you bouncing lists and scroll views Is that something people like so much? Whenever I've used an iOS device, it annoyed me. I much prefer the highlight in Android.

> While Android still doesn’t give you bouncing lists and scroll views It used to be in Android until Apple made it a 1 billion dollar lawsuit and banned everyone else in the universe from implementing it. Those bouncing lists. 1 billion dollar. And Apple is not a patent-troll. No siree.

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Re: An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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Post by Mahn »

sami36 wrote: post #2

& I switched from an iPhone 4S to a Galaxy Nexus & back to an iPhone 5 , couldn't be happier. These posts are pointless. Whatever device works for you. All of these platforms have strengths & weaknesses. You can make equally cogent cases for the upcoming Blackberry 10 or Windows Phone 8. The First iPhone was a significant leap in mobile computing, since then, the way I see it, it's been mostly polish. Google & MSFT c…

> iOS fluidity still has no equal

I've been using the iPhone for a while before switching to a Nexus 4, and honestly there is nothing that feels more fluid on iOS than on a Nexus 4 running jelly bean 4.2.1.

Re: An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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Post by DannyBee »

obituary_latte wrote: post #89
josteink wrote: post #75

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Upload to Google Music. Tag the music you want on the device as "available offline", on your phone, when you have internet connectivity. No cables. No sync. No fucking iTunes. No computer required. Just internet. Done. If you feel old-fashioned, you can also just copy files to your device as a standard MTP or mass-storage device using USB-cables, or copy to SD-cards. As long as the music files are properly tagged you…

So is DRM not an issue? Sounds promising. Thanks for the info.

A few years ago, apple stopped encrypting music. The music is watermarked, but not encrypted anymore. These files (m4a), can be played without issue.

The older stuff, which is encrypted (m4p), can't be played. However, you can just remove the DRM using any of the available DRM removers, with no loss (they are just removing the encryption, not transcoding).

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