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An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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Re: An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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Upload to Google Music. Tag the music you want on the device as "available offline", on your phone, when you have internet connectivity. No cables. No sync. No fucking iTunes. No computer required. Just internet. Done. If you feel old-fashioned, you can also just copy files to your device as a standard MTP or mass-storage device using USB-cables, or copy to SD-cards. As long as the music files are properly tagged you…

So is DRM not an issue? Sounds promising. Thanks for the info.

DRM will be an issue for any older purchased iTunes Music.

But you can pay a little more and Apple will provide non-DRM versions.

Re: An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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Can only agree with OP. I gave up my iPhone 4 for a Galaxy Nexus this summer and have never looked back. I think Google can still work on the default look, but I find Android to be very "clean" and quick to work with. Android feels much more like a real operating system. iOS is so restricted and there are many work tasks that I cannot do (e.g. mailing a dropbox file to someone). Google Now is also amazingly good. And…

I have always wondered about that feature, and always think.. - What if two people are looking at it. - Does it flick on and off as I look around - Is it using a huge amount of power when ever the screen is on, not only with powering the screen but with powering the camera. - Can I still use my screen as a light, or does is power off when I face it away from me? (I have a flash light app but it's quicker some times t…

1) Just as it is about to lock the screen it checks if someone is looking. Doesn't matter if it's one or two persons. If you're looking away at that instant it locks. A reasonable compromise that ensures it works more than good enough if you're reading an article. 2) It doesn't power off just because you are not looking at it. You can still use the phone as a flashlight. 3) It doesn't work if you're holding it sideways or cover the camera lens. Don't think this is a problem though - again the feature is directed for situations where you are browsing some content or reading an article. 4) It works if you have glasses 5) It doesn't work in low light situations, also a reasonable compromise.

I think the way you have to see it is that you don't really think about the feature. Sometimes you are reading something and notice the screen isn't dimmed. Sometimes when you're reading the screen dims and you have to touch the screen to have it not go into lock mode.

Having used it in practice for a few weeks I can say it's a great feature. I would expect it to show up on iOS and the core Android distribution.

Re: An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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I agree with what the article says about sharing data between applications, this really is one of the biggest pain points of iOS right now. Fortunately, it looks like Apple will finally address this in the future, iOS 6 already has infrastructure in place to allow for remote view controllers that (in theory) should allow any application to register itself to handle certain data and events. Right now seems to be only…

> Fortunately, it looks like Apple will finally address this in the future

Ha, sorry, reminds me of that Samsung commercial. We're going to get that in the next one.. right?

Re: An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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Can only agree with OP. I gave up my iPhone 4 for a Galaxy Nexus this summer and have never looked back. I think Google can still work on the default look, but I find Android to be very "clean" and quick to work with. Android feels much more like a real operating system. iOS is so restricted and there are many work tasks that I cannot do (e.g. mailing a dropbox file to someone). Google Now is also amazingly good. And…

I can email a Dropbox file to someone and search my mail on my iPhone. Or am I missing something ?

I always had to mail a link to the Dropbox file on iOS. And searching for old emails was hit and miss on my iPhone. On Android you're basically using the same search function as on gmail.com.

Re: An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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GROUP TEXT MESSAGES drive me crazy on android (complete rubbish), iOS has nice user experience for this. If there was one thing I wish google would fix ASAP its this.

Group text messages work fine on Android 4.2.

Nice to hear that it's fixed.

Wish I could get my phone updated without rooting it. My friend's iPhone 4 (released June 2010) is now patched up to worked with group messages fine, but my EVO 3D (released June 2011) that's a year younger won't get any updates. Android fragmentation graphic info: http://cdn2.techanalyzer.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Andr...

Re: An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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I agree with what the article says about sharing data between applications, this really is one of the biggest pain points of iOS right now. Fortunately, it looks like Apple will finally address this in the future, iOS 6 already has infrastructure in place to allow for remote view controllers that (in theory) should allow any application to register itself to handle certain data and events. Right now seems to be only…

I haven't read the article but I was an iPhone3 for a year, nexus 1 for a year, nexus s for a year and now iPhone 4S for a year. Things I still miss: I still miss that android apps can download in the background so for example when I wake up I the morning any new podcasts I'm subscribed to are already on the phone. Contrast to iOS6 where I have to remember to manually run the app. Which generally means I only run it…

"I haven't read the article but..."

So it's come to this on HN...

Re: An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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post #71

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Chill out and take a deep breath, because you're missing the point entirely. I was talking about the arguments the article gives that supposedly show 'Android is better in almost every aspect', not about the merits of customization itself. No one is denying you anything, like I said: it seems to be more like personal preference than objective superiority. Sure enough Android wins on customizability, but that doesn't…

You seem to think that 'allows customisation' and 'defaults that work well' are mutually exclusive for some reason. Note that I was responding to your characterisation of personalisation, which was essentially "give people the ability to personalise and they make it ugly!". Yes, to you. Not to them. I've also never really understood the toddler argument for 'well-designed'. 'Simple', sure, but not 'well-designed'. We…

>> You seem to think that 'allows customisation' and 'defaults that work well' are mutually exclusive for some reason.

Well often they are, especially in a complex piece of software like a phone OS. Customizability requires trade-offs which may affect usability or performance. More often than not, software that allows skinning looks butt-ugly in the default setting and integrates poorly with the rest of the system (think Java desktop applications etc).

Anyway, you still seem to assume I hate customization just because I have no need for it, while my original comment was about one thing, and one thing only: that customization isn't actually a very strong argument to compare mobile OS'es on, primarily because better defaults always beat customizability (and IMO, looking past the homescreen, taking all aspects of the OS and ecosystem into account, iOS is still miles ahead of Android in that regard), but also because it isn't all that interesting to (I assume) most smartphone users.

>> I've also never really understood the toddler argument for 'well-designed'. 'Simple', sure, but not 'well-designed'.

I'd say 'simple' is almost the penultimate goal of UI design, especially when you are talking about something as complex as a mobile phone. Today everyone takes for granted that even your granny can use a smartphone, but you only have to go back to Windows Mobile to appreciate how much the iPhone has done for smartphone usability. Android users can only be thankful for that because they are profiting from these advancements just as well.

>> We don't consider this for any other thing we do - board games aren't considered poorly designed if a toddler can't play them [..]

I think this is a bit silly, because most board games are intended to be hard, otherwise there wouldn't be any point in playing and winning them. I fail to see the relevance of the other examples. My impression is that you are thinking about 'well-designed' in terms of aesthetics, while I'm thinking about usability and ergonomics. In that context, well-designed is almost a synonym of 'simple' and 'easy to use'. Kids can now operate a smartphone and do things that my parents would have been dumbfounded if they had to do them on a regular PC, yet my mom is perfectly able to find, install and run applications on her iPad, and use it for everything she previously hated to use her PC for. To me, that means we've made progress in terms of usability.

>> I also don't really understand your last paragraph - again, you see to be arguing against customisation because you don't enjoy it

That's a strange way of reading what I wrote, because I what I was saying is that I actually used to enjoy customization until I lost interest in it and found out it almost always makes things worse, not better.

Re: An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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post #91

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Are you kidding me? The iPhone has the optimal width? You sound just like Marco, Gruber, and all those other Apple sycophants who were claiming that the iPhone size was perfect for the hand, until the iPhone 5 came out, of course. Just like they got their thumbs surgically altered when the 5 came out, no doubt you will be getting all your pockets resized if Apple increases the iPhone width.

I still think the iPhone 4 & The iPhone 5 compromises to make the screen bigger, but only by a little. I don't think I could use a 4" device like a Nexus 4 (I have a Nexus S which was a good size), on my commute where I need to hold onto a handle of the train, underground with one hand, smartphone in other.

You don't think that's contestable? It's one of the most absurd things to say. It's impossible for a device to be perfectly ergonomic for everyone.

I have big hands. I loved the original Xbox controller before they shrank it. I love bigger phones. I find the iPhone 4 and earlier too damn small for me.

The Apple commercials with someone hand showing that it is "perfect size" are simply laughable. Lets have someone with small, medium, and large hands film that commercial and you will see how ridiculous the concept of "perfect size" is.

Re: An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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The Samsung S3 / Nexus 4 comparison is interesting. I just sold a Nexus 4 and bought an S3. I do prefer stock android, but no sd card, fragility issues and the unremovable battery were a deal breaker for me.

I do see a lot of iPhones with smashed screens but I've only ever seen two or three Androids with smashed screens (and no blackberries). So this probably means that either the androids don't smash easily; that android users don't drop their phones on hard surfaces (unlikely - these are humans we're talking about); or that the iPhone screen is so good it keeps working when smashed and the Android ones don't.

Sample size: public transport users and eatery-goers...

Re: An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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post #71

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Chill out and take a deep breath, because you're missing the point entirely. I was talking about the arguments the article gives that supposedly show 'Android is better in almost every aspect', not about the merits of customization itself. No one is denying you anything, like I said: it seems to be more like personal preference than objective superiority. Sure enough Android wins on customizability, but that doesn't…

> That said, if you really care about customizability, you can always jailbreak your iPhone ... * Yes, you can, for now. There are no guarantees this will happen with future versions of iOS. * If you jailbreak you are forever a fugitive. You can never again just update, you have to wait and make sure it doesn't kill your setup. You can end up losing your warranty, be refused tech support, etc. * Finally, from a philo…

>> Finally, from a philosophical standpoint, it is absolutely absurd that I should ever have to break something I have paid for to take full ownership of it.

Actually, if you buy a phone on contract, you didn't pay the full price and aren't entitled to the same rights as someone who paid the full $650+tax sticker price and gets it SIM-unlocked.

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