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Make the Metric system the standard in the United States

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Re: Make the Metric system the standard in the United States

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It's a load of fun until you try to create an international website selling clothes, or food recipes, or even has dates on it. We 've already settled on using English for everything on the net, why not settle on common language about measures too.

>We 've already settled on using English for everything on the net You understand that you're just saying this in an english-speaking world and if there is anything against your argument it just won't come up here at your feet?

I 'm not from the English-speaking world and that holds for a huge number of people here and in the wider internet. English was the lingua franca before the internet and is the default language of the internet. Using it guarantees that the maximum number of people will understand you.

Re: Make the Metric system the standard in the United States

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I was educated during the conversion in the UK and commonly switch between the two. Speed and distances for travel in miles, shorter distances in meters. Height in feet for people, meters for building etc. Weight of people in stone, otherwise normally grams, liquids in pints for some things, liters for others. It's confusing, but makes sense in the long run.

> It's confusing, but makes sense in the long run. You're perceiving things like this because it's what you were brought up with. None of the examples in which you claim it's "natural" to use imperial units make any sense to me at all. I don't think in miles, don't know how much a "stone" is, and pints are just pure confusion - which pint? there's about 4 types isn't there? It's what you grew up with, nothing more.

Yes but getting the transition from one to the other takes a long long time.

Re: Make the Metric system the standard in the United States

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From the petitions.whitehouse.gov petition kindly submitted for comment here: "The United States is one of the few countries left in the world who still have not converted to using the Metric System as a standardized system of measurement. Instead of going along with what the rest of the world uses, we stubbornly still adhere to using the imprecise Imperial Unit - despite the fact that practically every other country…

British people generally like the old British "Imperial" system. It's ours! Millimetres and grammes are associated with Napoleon and the E.U. (which are also unpopular in the U.K.).

In British supermarkets, milk is usually sold in pints, except on the packaging it has to say "768 ml".

(By the way, I think your (U.S.) pints aren't the same as our (Imperial) pints.)

Often you see milk in 1 litre bottles instead. I suspect the reason this goes on is because it looks like it's 2 pints, but of course it's actually less than 2 pints. So it's basically just a sales trick to make the milk look cheaper and to confuse customers.

Cream is practically always sold in 1/2 pints, which on the packaging is written as 284 ml. As far as I remember, I've never actually seen it written as 1/2 pint, but that's what it is. I think a lot of people don't even know that it's 1/2 pint of cream.

We still use the Imperial system for lots of other things, e.g. beer, waistlines, car speeds, etc.

Furthermore in speech, the idioms "kilometrestone", "millimetreing forward", "give a millimetre and he'll take a kilometre" just don't sound as good!

In the markets in Holland, you often hear people asking for a "pond" of carrots, or whatever. (You also see it written by the stallholders as "ponds".) In this case, they mean 500g, however (according to Wikipedia) a Dutch pond was actually 494.09 g. (An Imperial pound on the other hand is 453.59 g).

(By the way, I find it a bit embarassing to write "Imperial", but I've stuck with it.)

I would also like to point out that the French and the Italians still measure their computer monitors, and their bicycle wheels in inches! Not their horrible millimetres.

My Dad (who is an architect) tells me that boilers are still measured in BTU's. I don't know if that's still true.

I have to say that the Metric system is definitely easier when it comes to (a) science, (b) surveying, engineering, etc.

For everything else (e.g. toast, road signs, boilers, cream, trousers, etc.) I'd rather have Imperial units.

Re: Make the Metric system the standard in the United States

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"Speaking of globalization, TVs are still sold and classified in inches :-)" Nope...

Samsung UE75ES9000S - 75 inches Samsung UE65ES8000Z - 65 inches Samsung UE32D6200W - 32 inches LG 55LM960V - 55 inches LG 47LM960V - 46 inches Notice a pattern, yet?

No? You're assuming things that aren't true in a lot of countries.

Re: Make the Metric system the standard in the United States

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> the units allow for common use of integer multiples of simple fractions. What does that mean? Isn't "use of multiples of fractions" a property of numbers in general? > For some people, a simple fraction of a relatable unit really is easier to deal with than a base ten decimal What's easier is what you're used to. That's the whole point.

12 can be evenly divided into thirds and quarters, but 10 cannot. It is more likely that something will need to be divided 2 or 3 ways than 5 ways.

10 can be divided in third and quarter fine. It does 10/3 and 10/4=2.5. Well, 10/3 isn't round so people don't like it but neither is 1/3 of an inch. It's not because a lot of operations suddenly become doable with numbers that you magically lose the usage of fractions.

Re: Make the Metric system the standard in the United States

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What do you measure body temperature with? Celsius or Fahrenheit?

No one outside the US measures in F (since the parent post is about the UK, this is a weird question :)

A canadian once told me that in canada atmospheric temperature is measured in celsius but body temperature is measured in farenheit, or maybe the other way around.
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