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Why Skilled Immigrants Are Leaving the U.S

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Re: Why Skilled Immigrants Are Leaving the U.S

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Well, If skilled immigrants are leaving U.S., and consider that there are many skilled workers that are not in U.S., then maybe it's the time to make a virtual Silicon Valley on the internet? So regardless where you are, you can enter "the virtual" Silicon Valley, and you won't have to apply for a visa!

> virtual Silicon Valley on the internet? Yeah, that's called the Internet.

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Re: Why Skilled Immigrants Are Leaving the U.S

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I heard from some of my international friends that new regulation has been passed that makes it increasingly hard for foreign nationals to stay in the US after university for skilled professions.

If this, I think that this will only be a detriment to the US, as we need the best skilled workers to maintain our global edge.

Re: Why Skilled Immigrants Are Leaving the U.S

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I heard from some of my international friends that new regulation has been passed that makes it increasingly hard for foreign nationals to stay in the US after university for skilled professions.

If this, I think that this will only be a detriment to the US, as we need the best skilled workers to maintain our global edge.

Re: Why Skilled Immigrants Are Leaving the U.S

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I heard from some of my international friends that new regulation has been passed that makes it increasingly hard for foreign nationals to stay in the US after university for skilled professions.

If this, I think that this will only be a detriment to the US, as we need the best skilled workers to maintain our global edge.

Re: Why Skilled Immigrants Are Leaving the U.S

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I hate to say it but, the ones with options are the good ones. The US is likely still the more attractive for those who come by the shovel-full. Also, this was surprising: > Chinese complained of pollution, reverse culture shock, /inferior education/ for children, frustration with government bureaucracy, and the quality of health care. That Chinese elementary education is worse than the US' would come as a surprise t…

I wonder how much of that is due to difference rather than genuine inferiority. My understanding is that the learning style in the US and China is very different. Disclaimer: I've never visited China and I've spent a grand total of 3 days in the US. This may limit my ability to comment.

I've /heard/, only, mind, that Chinese reading/writing is so hard that kids spend up to 5th, 6th grade on it. Sure, schools in countries with Western languages do too but, my impression from where this info came was that it ate up a few more years of schooling all by itself.

Re: Why Skilled Immigrants Are Leaving the U.S

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I would argue that while this certainly sucks for the US in the short term, it's awesome for the world in the long term. This is exactly what globalization is good for -- expose talented people from all over the world to the free market, get them to our level of expertise, and then have them go back home and start the arduous process of improving local standards of living.

Good point. Looking at the other side of the coin. This may be an opportunity for many countries. I hope they realize it.

We do ;)

There are tax incentives and programs to help high skilled people coming back. I've heard this is happening on other countries.

Re: Why Skilled Immigrants Are Leaving the U.S

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This is sad. In my opinion immigrants are the best Americans. They work the hardest and they expect the fewest handouts. In DC the Ethiopian immigrants had the highest rate of employment of any demographic group. At first they work in parking garages and as cab drivers. But after a few years they own restaurants and small businesses. In Silicon Valley I'd say over half the people pitching VC's have a foreign accent. I think it's amazing that somehow people who barely speak the language can figure out where the money comes from and how to fund their dreams. Yet people who have been here for generations complain about a lack of opportunity. Immigrants are our greatest asset. We should be fast-tracking highly educated immigrants and make it nearly seamless for them to move here.

Re: Why Skilled Immigrants Are Leaving the U.S

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I would argue that while this certainly sucks for the US in the short term, it's awesome for the world in the long term. This is exactly what globalization is good for -- expose talented people from all over the world to the free market, get them to our level of expertise, and then have them go back home and start the arduous process of improving local standards of living.

Except the US has lower standards of living, a worse education system, a terrible human rights record, really high obesity levels, and more poverty than many other counties.

No wonder they are leaving... there's many better places to live:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World%27s_Most_Livable_Cities

They also might be scared of being put in jail... with the US having 1 out of 100 people in jail... a massive percentage of them being non-white. The highest level of incarceration in the world: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisons_in_the_United_States

Re: Why Skilled Immigrants Are Leaving the U.S

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I heard from some of my international friends that new regulation has been passed that makes it increasingly hard for foreign nationals to stay in the US after university for skilled professions. If this, I think that this will only be a detriment to the US, as we need the best skilled workers to maintain our global edge.

What American shouldn't want to import more taxpayers? The income threshold over which a family is a net contributor to the government probably isn't much about $60K. So, importing just about anyone with a skill would lead to a lower tax burden for all. And, it would improve the lives of the lowest paid Americans by creating more demand for basic services (house cleaning, lawn mowing, etc.)

I understand the labor unions' reluctance to allow unskilled immigration, but they ought to press toward allowing more skilled people as it would increase the demand for their members' services. Interestingly, I think most unions are now in favor of legalizing illegal immigrants -- kicking out 10M people seems undoable, so they're best served by eliminating the illegal, un-unionizable underclass.

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