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Chuck Close on Creativity, Work Ethic, and Problem-Solving vs. Problem-Creating

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Re: Chuck Close on Creativity, Work Ethic, and Problem-Solving vs. Problem-Creating

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I could see that helping. It seems like transcription will prove a serious pain, though. More importantly, Linux on an old laptop could still support Dropbox. I would have lost a lot of work to a dead hard drive just last week if not for that. It only takes one leak or one energetic puppy to destroy a paper manuscript.

I'm likely going to hire someone to scan/OCR and fix up my pages. It'll likely only cost me a few grand for a whole novel -- a drop in the bucket compared to good editors and all that. But that's assuming I actually manage to write in the first place, which is a pretty big leap!

Your laptop can serve as that OCR service and it can cost a few - even several - times less than that estimate. Case in point: I write this reply on a $250 Woot.com netbook, which already saw me through a few novel drafts.

Please watch your costs here. My writing still hasn't covered the costs of the netbook I bought for my first novel, drafted back in 2008, and I paid only $500 for that one. A hundred sales counts as serious success for a brand-new author, and that likely won't bring in a grand on even self-published eBook royalties (70%).

Editorial and other services (layout, etc.) shouldn't cost you anything close to that first estimate, either. Dean Wesley Smith (http://deanwesleysmith.com), a 30-year industry veteran, has more to say on these points.

Re: Chuck Close on Creativity, Work Ethic, and Problem-Solving vs. Problem-Creating

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I could see that helping. It seems like transcription will prove a serious pain, though. More importantly, Linux on an old laptop could still support Dropbox. I would have lost a lot of work to a dead hard drive just last week if not for that. It only takes one leak or one energetic puppy to destroy a paper manuscript.

I'm likely going to hire someone to scan/OCR and fix up my pages. It'll likely only cost me a few grand for a whole novel -- a drop in the bucket compared to good editors and all that. But that's assuming I actually manage to write in the first place, which is a pretty big leap!

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Re: Chuck Close on Creativity, Work Ethic, and Problem-Solving vs. Problem-Creating

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post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm likely going to hire someone to scan/OCR and fix up my pages. It'll likely only cost me a few grand for a whole novel -- a drop in the bucket compared to good editors and all that. But that's assuming I actually manage to write in the first place, which is a pretty big leap!

Your laptop can serve as that OCR service and it can cost a few - even several - times less than that estimate. Case in point: I write this reply on a $250 Woot.com netbook, which already saw me through a few novel drafts. Please watch your costs here. My writing still hasn't covered the costs of the netbook I bought for my first novel, drafted back in 2008, and I paid only $500 for that one. A hundred sales counts a…

I don't disagree at all with what you say, but it assumes that I'm doing it to make money. I see it as a hobby that I'm willing to throw money against; the likelihood of me seeing a dime is incredibly slim, and not at all the goal. Thanks though -- it's always good to have more info!

Re: Chuck Close on Creativity, Work Ethic, and Problem-Solving vs. Problem-Creating

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who were better artists, engineers during his time?

It is often claimed that Leonardo da Vinci was an all-round genius. In the areas that I can judge he was an amateur at best (mathematics, physics and engineering). He did not contribute anything new to mathematics and physics, and I don't see any evidence that he even understood any mathematics or physics of his time. Hardly any of his "engineering" actually worked (he was an excellent illustrator however). Whether h…

I'm confused at why some people here are going out of their way to make Da Vinci's achievements sound trivial in the most fuzzy ways without providing any actual clear facts.

'he did not contribute anything new...' The truth is much of his work was lost and/or only discovered later, so by the definition of 'contributing' to the direct development of particular fields, it wasn't nearly as impacting as it could have been. I don't see how that reflects on his 'genius' in any shape or form. Instead it demonstrates ignorance and it's a point that someone who actually is just a little read up on Da Vinci wouldn't make.

We only have a fragment of his work documented today, and just on that alone, his brilliance in the many fields he was interested is clearly observable.

'he was an excellent illustrator'... That's like looking at his anatomical drawings and concluding he's a great illustrator without really understanding what he was drawing.

Only fairly recently has it been discovered exactly how well Da Vinci understood the workings of the aortic valve and blood flow. He used similar methods of flow visualisation that researchers used to make similar findings about the working of the heart in the 1990s (source http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs00348-002-0478-8...). It took over 500 years for the field to catch up in that respects.

He figured out why the sky appears blue (requiring understanding in optics and physics), the cause of heart disease, created some of the first robotics. If Da Vinci's work was accepted and published out in the open during his time, his impact on several fields would be highly influential.

'Hardly any of his engineering worked' For a better appreciation of his engineering prowess, maybe check out some of the many attempts to replicate his machines. Granted some sketches (which is what we're left with) don't work as is (if that's what you're expertly judging), but as is the case with engineering, you learn by iterating designs and testing real models, a luxury not given to Da Vinci for each of his many projects.

(And I wonder why people keep replicating his work if he was such an ordinary engineer)

A lot of those experiments to replicate have been made into documentaries and are good fun to watch. Here's an interesting attempt to reproduce his diving suit design http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjzZ1-Plgjs.

Re: Chuck Close on Creativity, Work Ethic, and Problem-Solving vs. Problem-Creating

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who were better artists, engineers during his time?

I don't want to get into a pissing contest but just to point out there are people equal of him in the versatility and greatness, such as his great rival Michelangelo, who is also a great sculptor and great architect. Da Vinci's work as a field engineer impugns his character as a shiftless ingrate who laid siege to his home city that did nothing but adoring and honoring him. Compared to Michelangelo, who grew up poor…

Now you're just taking the piss:)

Re: Chuck Close on Creativity, Work Ethic, and Problem-Solving vs. Problem-Creating

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Your laptop can serve as that OCR service and it can cost a few - even several - times less than that estimate. Case in point: I write this reply on a $250 Woot.com netbook, which already saw me through a few novel drafts. Please watch your costs here. My writing still hasn't covered the costs of the netbook I bought for my first novel, drafted back in 2008, and I paid only $500 for that one. A hundred sales counts a…

I don't disagree at all with what you say, but it assumes that I'm doing it to make money. I see it as a hobby that I'm willing to throw money against; the likelihood of me seeing a dime is incredibly slim, and not at all the goal. Thanks though -- it's always good to have more info!

Glad to provide! You're going in with open eyes to your intent, and that makes all the difference.
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