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Canonical announces Ubuntu for smartphones

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Re: Canonical announces Ubuntu for smartphones

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I am some how not very comfortable with ubuntu. Its bloating with so much code that its much slower than my arch linux.

But the good thing about this project is that with ubuntu, the other disributions will also try their hands on smartphones, which will certainly bring new ideas on the table. Like with current desktops there will be 2 kinds of smartphones, one which run "linux" and the rest.

P.S: Android only shares a common kernel with ubuntu, with rest being entirely different

Re: Canonical announces Ubuntu for smartphones

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>What does it bring new to developers that isn't there in Android? Firefox OS's USP is web apps with native bindings Connect a display and you have full ubuntu. With today's smartphones already computationally competitive with your standard netbook, that alone is a massive value proposition to me. Add something like motorola's lapdock and there is 95% of all my computing needs met, all with a single, central data sto…

> Hopefully porting from linux will be fairly straightforward too.. just a new UI support?, giving apps that work from desktop to mobile. Not to mention that is has most of the FFOS advantage too. I wouldn't trivialise the effort required to create a touch-friendly UI, especially from an existing desktop application (with the expectations that go with it).

Well, you're assuming they would need a new UI. You know what would be really nice to have on a phone if it didn't take any real effort to get it there? bash, ssh, nfs/sshfs/samba, etc.

I know the typical user isn't going to care, but I could see how it would be a big win for developers, and as we all know, "developers developers developers."

Re: Canonical announces Ubuntu for smartphones

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Quoting http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone/operators-and-oems : > Ubuntu has already been adapted to run on chipsets using the ARM and Intel x86 architectures relevant for mobile devices, with the core system based around a typical Android Board Support Package (BSP). So chipset vendors and hardware manufacturers do not need to invest in or maintain new hardware support packages for Ubuntu on smartphones. In short,…

But that doesn't say anything about being related in any way with Android code, does it? Also I think since kernel 3.3 Android uses the exact same kernel as other Linux distros. The Android kernel got merged with the normal Linux kernel. So I don't see why it would be a problem for them to use the same kernel.

He never said it did. He said that they can use Android kernel and drivers. That doesn't mean it's using Android's java environment, just the kernel and drivers beneath it.

Re: Canonical announces Ubuntu for smartphones

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Ultimately this leads to my dream of only carrying a phone with all my stuff on,going to work, place it in a dock and start working with the phone as my PC replacement.

So what's the difference between having cloud-based accounts and documents that sync between phone, tablet, and desktop? Then you can go to work and without even taking your phone out of your pocket (or even if you forgot it on your bed stand) you can start working with all your same stuff. I believe Apple looks at the problem this way. Rather than have one piece of hardware act as all devices, they have multiple pie…

You don't need two computers.

Re: Canonical announces Ubuntu for smartphones

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> it has gotten incrementally a lot better I keep hearing people say this, I keep trying it again and I keep being disappointed and going back to Xfce. I mean, every time you press Alt, the menu bar at the top of the screen flashes. That's a horrible, distracting misfeature encountered in the first 30 seconds of using the thing. Not likely to try desktop Unity a fourth time, no matter how many people say “it's gettin…

I'm waiting a few years. I think eventually they'll get it right. With every update, they're slowly fixing and improving things. I'm using OS X, and I love it. But I think Apple is going to fuck it up eventually, somehow. And hopefully, by then, Ubuntu will be a good choice.

I say this all the time but I'll say it again: Xubuntu, the flavor with Xfce as its desktop environment, has IMHO been an excellent choice for several years now. There's no tablet version but it works well, does what you expect and isn't being messed with constantly like other Linux desktops.

Re: Canonical announces Ubuntu for smartphones

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So what's the difference between having cloud-based accounts and documents that sync between phone, tablet, and desktop? Then you can go to work and without even taking your phone out of your pocket (or even if you forgot it on your bed stand) you can start working with all your same stuff. I believe Apple looks at the problem this way. Rather than have one piece of hardware act as all devices, they have multiple pie…

> So what's the difference between having cloud-based accounts and documents that sync between phone, tablet, and desktop? No internet required.

"The network is the computer." Who uses a computer without the internet?

I suppose the same thing is possible using local wifi synching, like how Dropbox shares content over a LAN when it can vs. downloading it from the cloud.

Re: Canonical announces Ubuntu for smartphones

#148

This announcement baffles me a little bit. An Ubuntu Phone? Why did they choose to announce a phone OS and not a tablet? Phones are light communication devices for sending brief messages, checking social statuses or updating them. Ubuntu is a full featured OS used in creating and consuming long-form content. If they are hoping to engage with existing OEMs I think they would've had a much better time of it with compan…

Maybe if you have an iPhone. My phone is definitely the computing device that gets the most use from me.

Re: Canonical announces Ubuntu for smartphones

#149

I'm feeling lazy after the holidays. Does anyone have a good argument for why any smartphone manufacturer (or carrier) would choose Ubuntu Phone over official or opensource Android? EDIT: OK, I've broken down and watched the video. Sounds like an important featre is the unified enterprise management with existing Ubuntu servers and desktops. I wonder if this will prove attractive to the remaining Blackberry holdouts?

You can dock your smartphone and have a complete desktop environment - no half-assed stuff - a full on desktop environment with all your desktop grade apps. That's even better than WP8 can do.

That alone is huge.

Re: Canonical announces Ubuntu for smartphones

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What I really want isn't a special Ubuntu Phone. It's a proper Linux running on Android devices, that's tailored for mobile usage. This looks great but I'd like to see it on my Android phone instead of Android.

Did you watch the video? You dock your phone and you've got the full desktop. This ubuntu phone is literally the FULL ubuntu desktop with a new UI on top. The only thing docking does is switch you to your desktop environment.
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