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Canonical announces Ubuntu for smartphones

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Re: Canonical announces Ubuntu for smartphones

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Swiping from the edges is exactly what I was hoping Google would do with Android, instead of wasting screen space with buttons. I think all Android's buttons could be repurposed into "edge actions", although they'd have to make them intuitive enough for people to get it quickly.

Swiping from the left and right edges on phones is prone to get confused with the swiping inside apps, that's the reason that none of the big mobile OSes have it. I am curious to see whether that's taken care of here.

Re: Canonical announces Ubuntu for smartphones

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This is a good thing, but having known Canonical and Ubuntu since the start (2004), I would really love to see them succeed in the desktop market first. This initiative will de-focus their efforts. I admire them, and wish them good luck anyway.

The desktop market is going away in the consumer space. Unless you're targeting business, it's past the time to become relevant in desktop computing.

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This is a good thing, but having known Canonical and Ubuntu since the start (2004), I would really love to see them succeed in the desktop market first. This initiative will de-focus their efforts. I admire them, and wish them good luck anyway.

I actually think this could help their desktop OS become more popular, so I'm excited about it, especially if they don't intend to lock down their bootloaders or allow carriers or manufacturers to mess with it too much.

I just hope they don't start selling them in 2014 with obsolete technologies like the ARMv7 platform and OpenGL ES 2.0. They need to start with the 64 bit ARMv8 and OpenGL ES 3.0 GPU's. Better to start fresh, especially considering they're launching so late.

Re: Canonical announces Ubuntu for smartphones

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Swiping from the edges is exactly what I was hoping Google would do with Android, instead of wasting screen space with buttons. I think all Android's buttons could be repurposed into "edge actions", although they'd have to make them intuitive enough for people to get it quickly.

Tough to make invisible things intuitive, but you can always force a quick intro tutorial like webOS and Windows 8. Trouble is, hand your device to someone else and they might have no idea how to operate it.

Jolla is really pushing edge gestures in their interface, and in the demo videos that have floated around in the last couple months it looks like a joy to operate.

Re: Canonical announces Ubuntu for smartphones

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This is a good thing, but having known Canonical and Ubuntu since the start (2004), I would really love to see them succeed in the desktop market first. This initiative will de-focus their efforts. I admire them, and wish them good luck anyway.

If you think this is going to de-focus Canonical's efforts you may be in a bit of denial on what their focus is.

Their focused effort is very clearly to be a player in a tablet/phone "post PC" space. Virtually everything they've done for the past 2 years points to this. If anything, this is proof of the focus of their efforts, you (like many of us) may just not like the path they've decided to go down.

Re: Canonical announces Ubuntu for smartphones

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This is a good thing, but having known Canonical and Ubuntu since the start (2004), I would really love to see them succeed in the desktop market first. This initiative will de-focus their efforts. I admire them, and wish them good luck anyway.

The desktop market is more or less disappearing. On the business end of things, business has no issue paying the paltry sum of what windows + office costs.

I'm not sure what else they can do in the desktop space. IMHO, Unity sucks pretty hard on the desktop and both MS and Ubuntu have taken major missteps.

I also imagine Win8 SP1 will bring back some kind of classic mode. Not sure if Unity will ever be desktop-ified other than running a variant of ubuntu like Kubuntu.

Re: Canonical announces Ubuntu for smartphones

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Oh great, another Ubuntu for %s with no shipping devices.

I really wish Canonical would partner with some OEM to actually produce some of these devices instead of just announcing they have software while expecting hardware OEMs to come running. I'd even be happy if they produced a firmware for use on the GN or N4.

Re: Canonical announces Ubuntu for smartphones

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This is a good thing, but having known Canonical and Ubuntu since the start (2004), I would really love to see them succeed in the desktop market first. This initiative will de-focus their efforts. I admire them, and wish them good luck anyway.

The desktop market is going away in the consumer space. Unless you're targeting business, it's past the time to become relevant in desktop computing.

Bullshit, people still need to make things. Make emails, edit videos, edit photos, write documents. These aren't business class activities, but touch screens are insufficient for that function.

I don't see people lugging around a laptop anymore, but I easily see people plugging their phone into a display, throwing a bluetooth or usb keyboard + mouse on, and expecting a productivity environment from that device. The hardware has the power to do that now.

I can do that with my Android tablet. If I were to do that with an Ubuntu phone, though, I'd have access to much more mature productivity software built for the desktop.

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