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Study shows space travel is harmful to the brain

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Re: Study shows space travel is harmful to the brain

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>The round trip to the red planet, in particular, could take as long as three years.

That "up to" is technically correct, but seems pretty misleading. I don't think anybody would seriously propose such a trip.

Per wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manned_mission_to_Mars#Windows)

>However, typical Mars mission plans have round-trip flight times of 400 to 450 days.[14] A fast Mars mission of 245 days round trip could be possible with on-orbit staging.

And of course if you are only interested in a one-way ticket (obviously with a drastically changed life expectancy when you arrive) then you are only looking at a trip in space of a few short months. (I think in theory you can get down to 88 days to Mars with the Aldrin Cycler, for example).

No part of going to Mars isn't going to likely kill you, either nearly instantaneously or slowly. Mars missions are going to create a lot of bodies. I'd love to be proved wrong there, but that just seems to be the reality of anything we can do in the foreseeable future. This risk is understood though, nobody who has seriously considered going for it is unaware. You may as well write articles on the dangers of BASE jumping.

Re: Study shows space travel is harmful to the brain

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Throughout the history of man, people have jumped into the unknown abyss, wondering if they would ever return. Today, we have lots of evidence that somebody might or might not return, but if nobody jumps, we will never cross the abyss.

I hope people continue jumping.

Re: Study shows space travel is harmful to the brain

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Throughout the history of man, people have jumped into the unknown abyss, wondering if they would ever return. Today, we have lots of evidence that somebody might or might not return, but if nobody jumps, we will never cross the abyss. I hope people continue jumping.

Let's hope the Martians fare better than the Native Americans.

Re: Study shows space travel is harmful to the brain

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Precision medicine will work to prevent the effects of cosmic radiation and DNA sequencing will probably be used to select candidate that are less likely to develop Alzheimer's or cancer in high risk environments. Surely it's been already figured out but the article doesn't mention it.

Re: Study shows space travel is harmful to the brain

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> The round trip to the red planet, in particular, could take as long as three years. That "up to" is technically correct, but seems pretty misleading. I don't think anybody would seriously propose such a trip. Per wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manned_mission_to_Mars#Windows ) > However, typical Mars mission plans have round-trip flight times of 400 to 450 days.[14] A fast Mars mission of 245 days round tr…

I dunno. NASA has pulled off some ridiculously long odds in the past, and I'm always amazed at how low the body count of manned missions to the moon is. (Apollo 13 was nothing short of a miracle, even all Hollywood interpretations aside).

I think that so long as no one attempts a mission to Mars before they're actually ready to do so, we'll be alright.

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> The round trip to the red planet, in particular, could take as long as three years. That "up to" is technically correct, but seems pretty misleading. I don't think anybody would seriously propose such a trip. Per wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manned_mission_to_Mars#Windows ) > However, typical Mars mission plans have round-trip flight times of 400 to 450 days.[14] A fast Mars mission of 245 days round tr…

I dunno. NASA has pulled off some ridiculously long odds in the past, and I'm always amazed at how low the body count of manned missions to the moon is. (Apollo 13 was nothing short of a miracle, even all Hollywood interpretations aside). I think that so long as no one attempts a mission to Mars before they're actually ready to do so, we'll be alright.

If get bored after a few missions and don't go back, then we might pull off a low to no body count. But the more missions we do, the more those unavoidable risks start to stack up. If we actually start getting up to "colony" scale, my money is on there being a decent bodycount, regardless of any herculean precautions.

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"While space is full of radiation, the earth's magnetic field generally protects the planet and people in low earth orbit from these particles."

The magnetic field protects only against charged particles (usually coming from the Sun). Galactic cosmic rays or solar flares are not blocked. The atmosphere blocks most of that, as well as the planet itself. In low-Earth orbit, you have half the horizon covered by the planet, so you get only half the radiation.

On Mars, you would get a little lower radiation as you would in low-Earth orbit. The atmosphere albeit thin does provide some shielding and the planet itself removes half the radiation (as in LEO). Greater distance from the Sun also reduces the impact of solar radiation.

Normal radiation levels pose little danger in space, you mainly have to worry about shielding during solar coronal mass ejections. When that happens, you usually have a few minutes to hours of warning (courtesy of our fleet of solar observing satellites). For adequate shielding you need to design a 'storm shelter' in the middle of the spacecraft, surrounded by the crew's food, water and waste.

Note that we've had astronauts spend years in space and the physiological damage was from low gravity rather than radiation. I don't understand why NASA has never built a rotating space habitat to solve this problem.

Re: Study shows space travel is harmful to the brain

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> The round trip to the red planet, in particular, could take as long as three years. That "up to" is technically correct, but seems pretty misleading. I don't think anybody would seriously propose such a trip. Per wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manned_mission_to_Mars#Windows ) > However, typical Mars mission plans have round-trip flight times of 400 to 450 days.[14] A fast Mars mission of 245 days round tr…

In 1893, when there was no consensus whether there might be sea or land around the north pole, the polar explorer Fridjof Nansen had a theory that there is only sea, and that the currents flow the ice over the polar region from Eastern Siberia, over the pole, towards Svalbard and Greenland.

So he set up an expedition, 12 men and food for 5 years, sailed north of Eastern Siberia and deliberately stuck the ship in the ice. Then waited ...for 3 years, and yes, finally emerged from the ice on the other side, near Svalbard.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nansen%27s_Fram_expedition

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