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Re: Silicon Valley's Problem

#21

There is no Silicon Valley problem. She assumes that everyone shares her progressive/leftist view of government. Why is it Silicon Valley's responsibility to "fix government" and not hers?

It's my responsibility too. I'm working on it. Just coming off the Obama campaign and rolling into a new gig in the coming weeks. Not ready to announce it yet, but I'm proud of it and think it's part of the solution.

Re: Silicon Valley's Problem

#22

My impression is that the tech culture pervading SV is built on a foundation of decentralized problem solving on a global scale, finding people who share an interest in the solution to some problem they're faced with, and working towards that solution with them. Intermediaries such as NGOs and governing bodies are not valued, because their operation isn't transparent or accessible. National borders and the government…

I think you're misunderstanding. I think it's exactly that decentralized, networked approach to problem-solving that holds the potential for technologists to fix big problems. The issue is that in SV most are not focusing on those problems. I WANT the tech community disrupting those old institutions, and I'm frustrated we're not doing more of it.

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post #8

Love this: Their goal is to make themselves as appealing—or threatening—to a big player as possible so they can get bought out for a few hundred million dollars and then devote the rest of their lives to a) building Burning Man installations, b) investing in other people’s widgets, or c) both. They really don’t care that much about making the world a better place, mostly because they feel like they don’t have to live…

Also: "Why donate money when people can just download my app and instantly have a better life?" She's talking almost directly to Steve Jobs. http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/08/29/the-mystery-of-steve-... The quote is a caricature of a more nuanced position, but articles like this are equally nuts: http://blogs.hbr.org/pallotta/2011/09/steve-jobs-worlds-grea...

I'm a "she" by the way :)

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#24

Silicon Valley != San Francisco. In fact, the idea of San Francisco being a part of Silicon Valley is a very recent one. The article makes some good points. But if you're going to write about Silicon Valley, the first thing you must do is understand what it is.

Yeah, as you can probably tell I struggled a lot with the term "Silicon Valley." I meant to describe more the culture than the geographic place, but since I'm based in SF it all kind of got conflated. Good point, I'm going to think a bit more about how to make that distinction clearer.

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Meh. The Silicon Valley rich are famously stingy philanthropists and a defense I’ve heard more than once is that the tools they spend their time building are inherently good. “Why donate money when people can just download my app and instantly have a better life?” Maybe I have a different view on the this from most on HA as I live in Africa, but products like cheaper cellphones have had a far more massive effect for…

"Give a guy a fish, and he'll have food for a day. Teach a man how to fish, and he'll have food for a lifetime."

This is why I really love the Kiva model: instead of giving money away, you instead become a 2nd/3rd world Angel Investor.

It also makes me think about Hans Rosling's excellent TED talk about population growth and globalization: http://www.ted.com/talks/hans_rosling_on_global_population_g...

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also: "Why donate money when people can just download my app and instantly have a better life?" She's talking almost directly to Steve Jobs. http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/08/29/the-mystery-of-steve-... The quote is a caricature of a more nuanced position, but articles like this are equally nuts: http://blogs.hbr.org/pallotta/2011/09/steve-jobs-worlds-grea...

I'm a "she" by the way :)

Oops, fixed! :)

Re: Silicon Valley's Problem

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post #22

My impression is that the tech culture pervading SV is built on a foundation of decentralized problem solving on a global scale, finding people who share an interest in the solution to some problem they're faced with, and working towards that solution with them. Intermediaries such as NGOs and governing bodies are not valued, because their operation isn't transparent or accessible. National borders and the government…

I think you're misunderstanding. I think it's exactly that decentralized, networked approach to problem-solving that holds the potential for technologists to fix big problems. The issue is that in SV most are not focusing on those problems. I WANT the tech community disrupting those old institutions, and I'm frustrated we're not doing more of it.

I agree with a lot of what you're saying. I think one issue is actually Silicon Valley's model of "disruption" — ie new solutions replace old ones. For example, instead of fixing public transit in San Francisco (or SF -> SV) we now have all of these new private infrastructures for transit within SF (Uber, Lyft, Cabulous, etc) and SF -> SV (all those shuttles, see: http://stamen.com/zero1/).

What happens then is that the people with apps, the people with jobs at Google, Apple, Facebook, live in a completely different urban landscape than ones who aren't in the ecosystem. When we can't see the problems of MUNI we don't feel them, and when they aren't problems for us we won't feel like fixing them. I'd love for us to have more of a civic sense as well, vs this complicated and classed (but faster to build!) layering of private infrastructures.

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#28
It's easy to talk about using political power for good purposes when you don't have it yet.

If Silicon Valley actually tried to become a political force, it might discover that the tech community doesn't agree on what the nation's most important problems are. Or that there is little correlation between the ability to make a lot of money putting advertisements on people's screens and the ability to find practical solutions to complex social problems. Or that the rest of the country doubts the goodness of its motives.

Re: Silicon Valley's Problem

#29
This post sucks. There are a lot of reasons for sucking, such as describing a non-problem. That's not this posts problem. This posts problem is that it describes a very real problem, and then basically throws up it's hands in defeat. That's actually worse than not saying anything at all, as it leaves the reader upset, but with no balm for the wound.

Thanks for wounding me and not giving me a bandage. Or, as I've heard it put, "If you're going to show someone a pile of shit, you better also show them the shovel."

So, taking my own medicine, here's the shovel for a post like this: stop writing posts describing problems that you have no ability, no ideas, and no real capability to solve. Otherwise you're just indulging in self-centered, self-hating navel gazing which does absolutely nothing for the world. I realize that sounds harsh, but it's a useful filter to apply to yourself. Only share actionable anxieties.

Re: Silicon Valley's Problem

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you're misunderstanding. I think it's exactly that decentralized, networked approach to problem-solving that holds the potential for technologists to fix big problems. The issue is that in SV most are not focusing on those problems. I WANT the tech community disrupting those old institutions, and I'm frustrated we're not doing more of it.

I agree with a lot of what you're saying. I think one issue is actually Silicon Valley's model of "disruption" — ie new solutions replace old ones. For example, instead of fixing public transit in San Francisco (or SF -> SV) we now have all of these new private infrastructures for transit within SF (Uber, Lyft, Cabulous, etc) and SF -> SV (all those shuttles, see: http://stamen.com/zero1/ ). What happens then is that…

Completely 100% agree with you, and have been mildly obsessed with Uber and other ride-sharing apps since I moved here because of their conflict with city government and the implications they have for public transportation.

One of the most jarring San Francisco experiences I had when I first got here was getting off Mission/16th BART and then walking a block to Valencia street. The difference that block makes is a good metaphor for what I'm trying to describe in this article, but I'm not creative or articulate enough to describe it in this context and have it make sense.

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