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Don't say ridiculously sexist and superficial crap and put an emoticon next to it like that makes it ok. It's not ok.
Don't attach the sexist label to things so easily. That devalues it in the mind of people that care not mindlessly.
https://www.hackerschool.com/blog/12-what-we-mean-by-hacker "Hacker School made it very clear what their definition of “hacker” is (curious go-getters) and what it is not (pompous know-it-alls)." "Someone who enjoys sharing what she learns with others. " "Someone who is friendly and communicates well." Bandwagon much? Don't go redefining 'hacker' just so you can jump your school on the 'hacking is hot' phenomenon. Fr…
I don't believe Nick or any Hacker School facilitator look to revolutionize "hacker." I don't believe they want to get into any semantic argument.
If anything, they're sharing their school of thought on hacking. On the one hand, they indeed have their opinions about programming and what it means to be a "hacker." On the other, they are also openminded to hearing different opinions and expanding their own.
In my observation, they don't intend to redefine anything. They just want to expand an ongoing conversation with others who care about programming.
https://www.hackerschool.com/blog/12-what-we-mean-by-hacker "Hacker School made it very clear what their definition of “hacker” is (curious go-getters) and what it is not (pompous know-it-alls)." "Someone who enjoys sharing what she learns with others. " "Someone who is friendly and communicates well." Bandwagon much? Don't go redefining 'hacker' just so you can jump your school on the 'hacking is hot' phenomenon. Fr…
I think our definition fits pretty well with ESR's and the definition of "hacker" from the Jargon file[1]: 1. A person who enjoys exploring the details of programmable systems and how to stretch their capabilities, as opposed to most users, who prefer to learn only the minimum necessary. 2. One who programs enthusiastically (even obsessively) or who enjoys programming rather than just theorizing about programming. (T…
You are a marketer/promoter/pusher. Junior programmers coding on fad frameworks at borderline user level are far from hackers in every possible definition of the word.
https://www.hackerschool.com/blog/12-what-we-mean-by-hacker "Hacker School made it very clear what their definition of “hacker” is (curious go-getters) and what it is not (pompous know-it-alls)." "Someone who enjoys sharing what she learns with others. " "Someone who is friendly and communicates well." Bandwagon much? Don't go redefining 'hacker' just so you can jump your school on the 'hacking is hot' phenomenon. Fr…
That's an awful definition of a hacker. Hacking, regardless of definition, was always a subculture. It was never about just being skillful, that's more inline with the modern washed out definition.
* Originally (70s-80s) hackers were programmers/technicians who could
modify programs or machines to perform tasks beyond their original
intended use (for good or bad).
* Afterwards (90s), journalists hyped the word to mean security
hackers, people expert on security issues of software (itself a
subset of original hackers).
* And then further journalist confusion, changing it to refer to
people cracking into systems
* In the last few years it became a glorified buzzword losing any
useful meaning.
Hacker School founder here. I'm happy to answer any questions anyone has about Hacker School or applying.
Nicholas, What do you think a family of 3 would need to pay for rent during Hacker School? (Assume the goal is to live as cheaply as possible, but to be in a safe area).
The word hacker is so abused for marketing purposes it now means entry level programmer of whatever trendy fad of the times. (e.g. node.js hacker, rails ninja, mongodb god) * Originally (70s-80s) hackers were programmers/technicians who could modify programs or machines to perform tasks beyond their original intended use (for good or bad). * Afterwards (90s), journalists hyped the word to mean security hackers, peopl…
>> "hackers were programmers/technicians who could modify programs or machines to perform tasks beyond their original intended use (for good or bad)"
That is incredibly vague. In fact, by that standard, I was a "hacker" in 8th grade.
Is there some unspoken and arbitrary measure of skill in the "original" definition you are referring to?
If not, then there's absolutely nothing wrong with any entry level programmer referring to themselves as a hacker.
>> A lot of insecure people who need cool names use it to describe themselves. There's no substance and no way to verify their claims. This is like ghetto cars with neon lights and flaps.
That analogy isn't helpful. How does the so-called dilution of the "hacker" term relate to "ghetto" cars with neon lights?
The word hacker is so abused for marketing purposes it now means entry level programmer of whatever trendy fad of the times. (e.g. node.js hacker, rails ninja, mongodb god) * Originally (70s-80s) hackers were programmers/technicians who could modify programs or machines to perform tasks beyond their original intended use (for good or bad). * Afterwards (90s), journalists hyped the word to mean security hackers, peopl…
You don't provide any evidence to support your claim. >> "hackers were programmers/technicians who could modify programs or machines to perform tasks beyond their original intended use (for good or bad)" That is incredibly vague. In fact, by that standard, I was a "hacker" in 8th grade. Is there some unspoken and arbitrary measure of skill in the "original" definition you are referring to? If not, then there's absolu…
Not some random 90s nobody like ESR disenfranchised by the same people who made him famous (the slashdot crowd of the 90s).
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I think our definition fits pretty well with ESR's and the definition of "hacker" from the Jargon file[1]: 1. A person who enjoys exploring the details of programmable systems and how to stretch their capabilities, as opposed to most users, who prefer to learn only the minimum necessary. 2. One who programs enthusiastically (even obsessively) or who enjoys programming rather than just theorizing about programming. (T…
No. You are a marketer/promoter/pusher. Junior programmers coding on fad frameworks at borderline user level are far from hackers in every possible definition of the word.
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No. You are a marketer/promoter/pusher. Junior programmers coding on fad frameworks at borderline user level are far from hackers in every possible definition of the word.
Look at the githubs of the people in the batches. There is very little "fad frameworking" going on.