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Re: The Hacker School Experience

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Where you place the most attractive people in the front row for each photo. ;)

But, in all seriousness, I think it is a fantastic idea to make women feel more welcome in that field, as too many girls I know who are IST majors, or something similar, frequently talk about how they really feel that it's more of a "guys" area.

Re: The Hacker School Experience

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post #2

Where you place the most attractive people in the front row for each photo. ;) But, in all seriousness, I think it is a fantastic idea to make women feel more welcome in that field, as too many girls I know who are IST majors, or something similar, frequently talk about how they really feel that it's more of a "guys" area.

Don't say ridiculously sexist and superficial crap and put an emoticon next to it like that makes it ok. It's not ok.

Re: The Hacker School Experience

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post #3
post #2

Where you place the most attractive people in the front row for each photo. ;) But, in all seriousness, I think it is a fantastic idea to make women feel more welcome in that field, as too many girls I know who are IST majors, or something similar, frequently talk about how they really feel that it's more of a "guys" area.

Don't say ridiculously sexist and superficial crap and put an emoticon next to it like that makes it ok. It's not ok.

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Re: The Hacker School Experience

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https://www.hackerschool.com/blog/12-what-we-mean-by-hacker

"Hacker School made it very clear what their definition of “hacker” is (curious go-getters) and what it is not (pompous know-it-alls)."

"Someone who enjoys sharing what she learns with others. "

"Someone who is friendly and communicates well."

Bandwagon much? Don't go redefining 'hacker' just so you can jump your school on the 'hacking is hot' phenomenon.

From a Google definition: "An enthusiastic and skillful computer programmer or user.", and yes, skillful is a far more important part of it than "friendly and communicates well".

That said (from a pompous know-it-all, no less!), the school itself seems pretty awesome and big kudos to them! Just the kind of thing the world needs more of.

Re: The Hacker School Experience

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post #3
post #2

Where you place the most attractive people in the front row for each photo. ;) But, in all seriousness, I think it is a fantastic idea to make women feel more welcome in that field, as too many girls I know who are IST majors, or something similar, frequently talk about how they really feel that it's more of a "guys" area.

Don't say ridiculously sexist and superficial crap and put an emoticon next to it like that makes it ok. It's not ok.

Don't attach the sexist label to things so easily. That devalues it in the mind of people that care not mindlessly.

Re: The Hacker School Experience

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post #6

https://www.hackerschool.com/blog/12-what-we-mean-by-hacker "Hacker School made it very clear what their definition of “hacker” is (curious go-getters) and what it is not (pompous know-it-alls)." "Someone who enjoys sharing what she learns with others. " "Someone who is friendly and communicates well." Bandwagon much? Don't go redefining 'hacker' just so you can jump your school on the 'hacking is hot' phenomenon. Fr…

Everyone goes in enthusiastic and comes out more skilled. The definition has not been altered. Sure, in three months you can't learn it all, but you learn to keep learning. You go to become a hacker, not because you are one. I think that was the point trying to be made.

DISCLAIMER: I am on the Hacker School bandwagon as a participant myself ;)

Re: The Hacker School Experience

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post #6

https://www.hackerschool.com/blog/12-what-we-mean-by-hacker "Hacker School made it very clear what their definition of “hacker” is (curious go-getters) and what it is not (pompous know-it-alls)." "Someone who enjoys sharing what she learns with others. " "Someone who is friendly and communicates well." Bandwagon much? Don't go redefining 'hacker' just so you can jump your school on the 'hacking is hot' phenomenon. Fr…

I think our definition fits pretty well with ESR's and the definition of "hacker" from the Jargon file[1]:

1. A person who enjoys exploring the details of programmable systems and how to stretch their capabilities, as opposed to most users, who prefer to learn only the minimum necessary.

2. One who programs enthusiastically (even obsessively) or who enjoys programming rather than just theorizing about programming. (Though as we point out, we don't think being obsessive is necessary.)

Also, in ESR's "How to be a hacker"[2] he includes both learning to write and communicate well and sharing what you learn and build with others as requirements for being a hacker.

[1] http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/H/hacker.html

[2] http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html#skills4

EDIT: To anyone reading the parent comment without clicking through to the blog post it's excerpting, please note the parent comment ignores the first two criteria we list:

Someone who is intellectually curious. Hackers enjoy tinkering and understanding how things work. They revel in going deeper into things, and love asking questions: How can I make my code easier to debug? What is making my program slow? How does this work?

Someone who enjoys programming. We spend most of our time at Hacker School programming, there aren't grades or tests to make you study, and you don't get a degree or certificate for doing Hacker School, so it's important that you like coding.

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