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Facebook’s dark matter: “secret” groups

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Re: Facebook’s dark matter: “secret” groups

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In my case the personal answer is that there is simply nothing productive, at all, about using Facebook. It is indeed a total waste of time - for everyone. I've yet to see anyone actually get any work done while facebook.com is up on the screen. Perhaps some small businesses use it to communicate with their customers - I don't know, because I personally cannot ever associate Facebook with "service I want to use". Fac…

Facebook had to overcome a pretty steep disadvantage to beet e-mail. The main difference I see is that in e-mail, everything you see (in theory) needs your attention, whereas in facebook, nothing you see needs you attention, but everything is avalable when you want to give your attention. Unlike e-mail, people can join the conversation without an explicit invitation.

Are you sure you haven't got that around the wrong way? If I check Facebook right now, I will have missed everything that happened in between now and the last time .. unless I scroll and scroll and scroll.

But if I check email right now, I can come back and see the same emails that I haven't read yet, a week later, sitting in the same approximate location.

Also, umm .. really, this: "Unlike e-mail, people can join the conversation without an explicit invitation."

.. just doesn't seem quite right. Ever been on a proper listserv?

Actually, your observation - and don't take it wrong, but I think you got it .. not .. quite .. right - is fascinating. You actually have it completely inverted, in my opinion - is this because you learned to use Facebook before you learned to (properly) use email? Not trying to be offensive, but this inversion seems pretty obtuse ..

Re: Facebook’s dark matter: “secret” groups

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Imagine if you are using your FB and you have other people around you peeking at your PC screen. Now this secret FB group is not really secret, is it? There is actually no technical way possible for having a truly secret group.

This is like saying you can't have a secure bank account online because people can just look over at your screen while you do it. Just don't go on when people are around.

You are right. What I am saying is that secrecy of an online group is totally dependent on human choice and decisions. When Facebook (or anyone else) claim that they have secret group ... they are not technically secret because their secrecy is dependent upon non-technical aspect, i.e, humans.

BTW, the analogy of bank website isn't equally applicable because people don't hang out at their bank websites most of the time.

Re: Facebook’s dark matter: “secret” groups

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Could I ask a simple question, not because I want to mock people or anything, but because I've been experiencing a similar phenomenon lately. Why does facebook make you hate people you know? I do generally find that most people I'm not actively great friends with at the moment tend to annoy the shit out of me with either bragging, illogical nonsense about things like politics, or just passive-aggressive teenager post…

You know that Adams quote about the universe being bigger than you can impossibly imagine? Like, really, really big? Well, people are like that. Our brains kinda blur the world together and, without realizing it, our brains map other people onto our own experiences so we think people are kinda like us. Except they really aren't. Really, really, really aren't. In every day interactions, we gloss over, ignore, and excu…

"we think people are kinda like us. Except they really aren't. Really, really, really aren't."

I think the opposite is more likely to be problematic. People who aren't like myself are more interesting.

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