I recommend counseling. ASAP.
Dear Hacker Community – We Need To Talk
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#22What I learned from the post is the absolute lack of organizational structure or delegation for "Cryptoparty" with everyone going off to do their own thing. This is why structure is super important to organizing events.
Coming to sexism, there are a great many sexist events here as well as the regular "you noob!" moments which seem to have been mistaken as sexist. There is an extreme amount of manipulation, general douchebaggery, credit stealing, blame shifting etc. in office politics and not just in IT and all of it happens to guys too. Hearing only one side of the story from an an obviously anguished individual also does not help. Alcohol, a thousand guys and six women don't mix well and alcohol should have been taken off the table.
Having lost my father recently and realizing some truths about life, my sincere advice for her is to take a step back, turn off Twitter, turn off comments on her blog, take a deep breath and spend more time with her baby for a week before coming online again. Wasting sleepless nights on things so trivial in the long run is not even close to being worth it.
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#23" I didn’t create Cryptoparty just so a bunch of privileged white boys could.." Why did she drag race into it? Completely unnecessary. She has valid points without this.
Her agenda is about making crypto accessible to lots of people that it's not currently available to. To those people, hackerdom often looks like an undifferentiated mass of white dudes. Leaving race out of a discussion like that is not a neutral thing: omitting race is a statement of its own.
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#24They (big bad men) gave you trouble for seemingly valid difference in opinions, deal with it. And please don't imply that the HN has any hand in fostering misogyny or sexism because it's a completely false characterization of the community at large. In fact if you haven't picked up on it yet we're actually one of the more "progressive" and or liberal industries. But that doesn't mean we're going to hold you to any le…
Admittedly, the post is very ranty, but that doesn't take away from the the issue itself.
Picking apart the person behind the argument does not lessen the issue either. By doing so, you are only trying to detract from the seriousness of the issue via a borderline ad hominem response.
Finally, at no point in the post did Asher Wolf mention Hacker News, it was directed at the greater hacker community.
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#25Is there actually a point in all these because I've read about half way down and I'm not seeing any substance, and I'm not convinced that there is one. If anything, her approach to organisation (do whatever you want) is a big red flag to me that this wasn't going to work well for her/or anyone in fact.
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#26They (big bad men) gave you trouble for seemingly valid difference in opinions, deal with it. And please don't imply that the HN has any hand in fostering misogyny or sexism because it's a completely false characterization of the community at large. In fact if you haven't picked up on it yet we're actually one of the more "progressive" and or liberal industries. But that doesn't mean we're going to hold you to any le…
At no point does she explicitly cite HN. The post is directed to all "hackers."
Hence my use of the word imply. As in 'implicit' ... you know - the opposite of 'explicit'.
I also believe she changed the title.
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#27The problem with this woman's story is that she takes a few cases of explicit sexism and extrapolates them as the reason why everyone is saying rude things to her. Or at least that's how I see it. Perhaps she is just commenting on the general douchebaggery of the community, but even then much of the criticism she received could be seen as fair if she was actually in the wrong. Although sexism is clearly an issue in t…
Yeah, it's all just a few bad apples, there's no underlying problem. Just like all the other women with appalling experiences of sexism in the tech community.
Seriously, if you can't see a fundamental problem, I seriously doubt you're looking very hard.
http://therealkatie.net/blog/2012/mar/21/lighten-up/ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cerian-jenkins/the-tech-indust... http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/CouchDB_talk http://bitquabit.com/post/seriously/ http://farukat.es/journal/2012/10/669-kathy-sierra-primer-se...
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#28The problem with this woman's story is that she takes a few cases of explicit sexism and extrapolates them as the reason why everyone is saying rude things to her. Or at least that's how I see it. Perhaps she is just commenting on the general douchebaggery of the community, but even then much of the criticism she received could be seen as fair if she was actually in the wrong. Although sexism is clearly an issue in t…
I do not believe that was the point of the article. Extrapolations and technicalities aside, she is showing her perspective of why she is pissed at the cryptoparty community. Personally, I find that somewhat interesting.
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#29Do something.
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#30If you are a man reading this, I invite you to: a. Resist the urge to pick apart the OP's life and criticize how/what she said. b. Honestly reflect, without shame or blame, about what you know of sexism. What do you understand of it? What do you understand it's roots are, and how it works? What do you think your responsibility is, as a man, and as a member of this community? I invite you to do this, because it's a ch…
This was horrible to read.