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Re: MTA Releases Subway Time App

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One built in 1904. The control systems of the MTA are purely electromechanical. It goes way beyond what one would normally call a "legacy system". You can't record the position of trains because there is no way to snapshot the whole system. Only the signal tower local to that section of the system is aware of what's going on in its zone. This is a vestige of the design where there was no reasonable way to centralize…

So on the decentralized systems, how does one station know when to delay a currently-stopped train because there's a delayed train farther up the route? Do signal towers up ahead simply transmit to adjacent stations "Delayed train up ahead?"

I would guess it does not know there is a delayed train on the route, but just that there is a train on the route.

It is fairly easy to hook up a "'low resistance between the rails aka 'wheels on the rails' aka 'there is a train here'" detector to a 'do not enter' signal a few hundred meters up, and to a 'drive slowly' signal some distance before that (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_Block_Signal)

Re: MTA Releases Subway Time App

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Boston's MBTA has had similar services available for years. About 3 years ago they rolled out tracking for the Orange, Red and Blue lines. Less than 2 years ago, they rolled out GPS tracking for buses. Recently, they started adding arrival time boards for the Orange, Red and Blue Lines as well.

* MBTA App Showcase: http://www.mbta.com/rider_tools/apps/

* MassDOT Developer Page: http://www.eot.state.ma.us/default.asp?pgid=content/develope...

Additionally, cellular service has been added to most subway lines and stations for at least the orange line (so you have decent signal while riding and in stations), plus WiFi available on most commuter rail trains.

Re: MTA Releases Subway Time App

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post #25

Boston's MBTA has had similar services available for years. About 3 years ago they rolled out tracking for the Orange, Red and Blue lines. Less than 2 years ago, they rolled out GPS tracking for buses. Recently, they started adding arrival time boards for the Orange, Red and Blue Lines as well. * MBTA App Showcase: http://www.mbta.com/rider_tools/apps/ * MassDOT Developer Page: http://www.eot.state.ma.us/default.asp?…

Likewise with DC: http://developer.wmata.com/Application_Gallery

Re: MTA Releases Subway Time App

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I love that Chicago's CTA believes in a much more open development model: http://www.transitchicago.com/apps/ http://www.transitchicago.com/developers/default.aspx

More data:

https://www.metrochicagodata.org/ https://data.cityofchicago.org/

It's all a part of Chicago's OpenGov work and its incredible how much data and work is out there. Here's a list of apps that people made in a city-sponsored competition:

http://www.smartchicagocollaborative.org/list-of-apps-for-me...

And here's a link to one of the meetups that try to do something cool with all that open data from the City:

http://www.opencityapps.org/#about

Re: MTA Releases Subway Time App

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The fact this information is finally out there is fantastic. But for God's sake, if this is the case:

“The existence of this sleek digital interface barely hints at the investment that had to be made in terms of hardware and infrastructure to make this enormous public benefit a reality,”

Why is this literally the worst app I've ever used? A weird old pixellated icon, non-retina bitmapped user interface elements, scrolling that doesn't continue and decelerate once you let go... not even any clear indication of which trains are uptown or downtown, no map to more easily pick a station, etc...

If they've been spending millions on the infrastructure to make this possible, couldn't they have spent more than what I would guess to be about $500 producing this app? It's like a third-grader wrote it. A bad third-grader.

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