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Stop Generalizing About Europe

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Re: Stop Generalizing About Europe

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I was curious so here are some population figures (from wikipedia) Eurozone: 332,839,084 EU: 503,492,041 Europe: 739,165,030 So 45% of Europeans (66% of EU citizens) are in the Eurozone.

Can't stress enough that the 740 million figures includes Russia and Kazakhstan in the bunch. Two countries that are more Asian than they are European.

Re: Stop Generalizing About Europe

#152
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I think most Americans would break the European continent into "Europe" (aka continental W. Europe), the UK, East Europe, and Russia. Even if rounded up, there is a clear distinction between Europe (W. Europe + UK) and East Europe (E Europe + Russia) which probably has something to do with Cold War borders and allies.

Correct regarding the reasons and wrong regarding the current situation. You will be much more spot-on if you divide between the "former USSR" and "rest of Europe". Former USSR countries are mostly unified by the same language, religion (or lack of) and culture. They used to be the same country... much alike the USA. "The rest of Europe" is now mostly part of (or willing to join) the European organizations like (but…

The majority of Eastern European countries were not part of the USSR. They were USSR's allies in the Warsaw Pact - in the same way that the Western European countries were USA's allies in NATO - but they were independent nations. I'm talking about countries such as Poland, The Czech Republic + Slovakia (Czechoslovakia), Hungary, the countries that were formerly Yugoslavia, etc.

> Former USSR countries are mostly unified by the same language, religion (or lack of) and culture.

Not true at all. I've been to both Russia and several other Eastern European countries, and I can guarantee you that even within the former USSR there were many different languages, ethnicities, and religions.

Re: Stop Generalizing About Europe

#153

If you think of it, pop culture shared amongst Europeans have a greater chance to be American than European.

As a French dude, I've always dreamt of a more unified European culture. As in producing movies, TV shows with European money, catering to a European audience. England already produces some more-than-decent TV shows as it is.

We should also make English the official language, that would help us all move forward.

Re: Stop Generalizing About Europe

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America is the name of the country. It's The United States of America, like the Federal Republic of Germany or The People's Republic of China, etc.

America/Americas is the entire land mass containing all North American countries and South American countries. It's just also slang for "The United States of America".

If that is true then "Germany," "China," "Russia," "Ireland," "Australia," et al. are all slang for their proper (sometimes anglicized) country names.

Re: Stop Generalizing About Europe

#156

This post feels awfully pedantic. While it may not be clear to non-Americans, when Americans talk about "Europe", they're generally talking about Western Europe, not Eastern, and are excluding the UK too. They almost certainly aren't including Russia. (Just like when Americans talk about Asia, they aren't usually thinking of India.) Of course, that's geographically inaccurate -- but it's what we usually mean. The Eur…

> ambivalent feelings toward entrepreneurs

Germany has over three millions SMEs (small and medium enterprises, called 'Mittelstand'). I can assure you that there are no ambivalent feelings against 'entrepreneurs'. Exactly the opposite. You find world-market leaders in small towns all across rural Germany. You can guess that people are extremely proud to work for these companies.

99% of all companies are in the Mittelstand. "Roughly 95% of all German firms are family-owned. Of these, approx. 85% are managed by their owner."

Re: Stop Generalizing About Europe

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Well, I'm a European myself, but the corrections sounds a little on the pedantic side: > "Most of Europe has the euro as a common currency" -- Only 17 of Europe's 50 countries use the Euro. Yes. Only some of the LARGEST countries, for a total of 332 million people. Not to mention that he did say "most". > "Europe is great for an American tech entrepreneur because wealth is better distributed" The difference between t…

Indeed, not only some of the largest countries, but the bulk of the PPP-adjusted GDP of "Europe" uses the Euro as a currency, so this point is not even pedantic, it's factually incorrect. If Wikipedia's facts are straight, the Eurozone member states total to nearly 11e12 PPP-adjusted international dollars, while all states of Europe (including huge economies outside the EU, like Russia) have a total PPP-adjusted GDP of 20e12. QED: most of Europe has the Euro as a common currency.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_in_Eur... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurozone#Member_states

Re: Stop Generalizing About Europe

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"But they all share a common language" Ha! You haven't been to Watsonville, California or just about anywhere along the border with Mexico, have you?

Try to follow the conversation between somebody living in my village and the next one 5 km further down the road. Or a bavarian and someone from Hamburg. They wouldn't understand each others dialects. You know what I mean. Even the folks down on the mexican border get fox news and understand plain old english. Things tend to be pretty ok in western europe where most can agree on english, but don't forget that a large…

In the city I named (Watsonville) there are many people that don't understand English and many of the signs there are in Spanish. This city is in the heart of agricultural California so most foreigners (and Californians, to be honest) never see it.

It is only about 60 minutes from Silicon Valley and yet has more culturally and linguistically in common with Mexico in many ways.

Re: Stop Generalizing About Europe

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This post feels awfully pedantic. While it may not be clear to non-Americans, when Americans talk about "Europe", they're generally talking about Western Europe, not Eastern, and are excluding the UK too. They almost certainly aren't including Russia. (Just like when Americans talk about Asia, they aren't usually thinking of India.) Of course, that's geographically inaccurate -- but it's what we usually mean. The Eur…

when Americans talk about "Europe", they're generally talking about Western Europe, not Eastern, and are excluding the UK too. They almost certainly aren't including Russia. Likewise, most people across the world seem to use "American" and "U.S. citizen" interchangeably, even though Canada and Brazil, for example, are in the Americas, making Canadians and Brazilians American , as well.

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Re: Stop Generalizing About Europe

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Ok. Then what? Try and imagine an article written for US based entrepreneurs that didn't generalize about Europe to some degree? It would be awfully confusing (if written at all) So better to gently chide some of the more extreme generalizations than worry about stopping the practise entirely.

what about calling countries by their name? let's say, when you're talking about Germany, you say "Germany" instead of "Europe"?
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