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My temporary PHP fix from 2014 has nearly 20M installs. Today I'm deprecating it

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Re: My temporary PHP fix from 2014 has nearly 20M installs. Today I'm deprecating it

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Post by domh »

HackerThemAll wrote: post #11
jakeasmith wrote: post #2

Author here, happy to answer any questions. I never imagined a polyfill for http_build_url would gain so much traction. After 12 years, deprecating it feels like the right move, especially given the new options from the community and PHP itself.

The JavaScript world is littered with stuff comparing to which your patch seems like a complex project. See those examples: https://www.npmjs.com/package/is-odd https://www.npmjs.com/package/is-even https://www.npmjs.com/package/left-pad https://www.npmjs.com/package/is-whitespace-character https://www.npmjs.com/package/isarray

These packages are basically memes at this point... Those download figures cannot be accurate for real production usage.

I don't believe any programmer is actually using these. isarray and left-pad are at least functions that didn't used to be in the standard library, to slightly excuse them.

Re: My temporary PHP fix from 2014 has nearly 20M installs. Today I'm deprecating it

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Post by gitowiec »

Omg, PHP... I ditched this language 7 years ago, because I was fed up with the context switching (fullstack webdev). In the beginning I really was enjoying the gentle slope of learning. I could do a lot without knowing what classes, objects and types are. And I am grateful for this, because thanks to it, now I am here where I can do much more powerful things knowing classes, objects, types and paradigms

Re: My temporary PHP fix from 2014 has nearly 20M installs. Today I'm deprecating it

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Post by alt227 »

gitowiec wrote: post #42

Omg, PHP... I ditched this language 7 years ago, because I was fed up with the context switching (fullstack webdev). In the beginning I really was enjoying the gentle slope of learning. I could do a lot without knowing what classes, objects and types are. And I am grateful for this, because thanks to it, now I am here where I can do much more powerful things knowing classes, objects, types and paradigms

PHP kept on getting professional attention and development, and so now it also has all those things you mentioned.

Re: My temporary PHP fix from 2014 has nearly 20M installs. Today I'm deprecating it

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Post by pmlnr »

Timwi wrote: post #30
TimWolla wrote: post #8

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The package is marked as abandoned on Packagist [1] > This package is abandoned and no longer maintained. No replacement package was suggested. Both adding it as a dependency using composer and installing it from a lockfile results in: $ composer require jakeasmith/http_build_url […] Package jakeasmith/http_build_url is abandoned, you should avoid using it. No replacement was suggested. […] $ rm -r vendor/ $ composer…

It would have been nice if a replacement had been suggested.

Read the linked entry.

Re: My temporary PHP fix from 2014 has nearly 20M installs. Today I'm deprecating it

#45

Post by nkrisc »

dolmen wrote: post #24
jakeasmith wrote: post #2

Author here, happy to answer any questions. I never imagined a polyfill for http_build_url would gain so much traction. After 12 years, deprecating it feels like the right move, especially given the new options from the community and PHP itself.

From the article: > So I had a decision to make. I could dive back into PHP after almost a decade away, hand the package to one of the people who’d offered, or let it keep sitting there. We are in the AI era. As a maintainer of an open source project that I haven't touched for years, I would first start by asking an AI to produce a fix for the issue and check what it proposes. This definitely reduces the mental load…

The cool thing about open source is anyone can fork it and spend their own money asking AI to make a fix.

Re: My temporary PHP fix from 2014 has nearly 20M installs. Today I'm deprecating it

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Post by vachina »

HackerThemAll wrote: post #11
jakeasmith wrote: post #2

Author here, happy to answer any questions. I never imagined a polyfill for http_build_url would gain so much traction. After 12 years, deprecating it feels like the right move, especially given the new options from the community and PHP itself.

The JavaScript world is littered with stuff comparing to which your patch seems like a complex project. See those examples: https://www.npmjs.com/package/is-odd https://www.npmjs.com/package/is-even https://www.npmjs.com/package/left-pad https://www.npmjs.com/package/is-whitespace-character https://www.npmjs.com/package/isarray

Whenever I see a npmjs project I nope out of it. I’d rather spend $50 on tokens to reimplement whatever JS slop in Python or Go.

Re: My temporary PHP fix from 2014 has nearly 20M installs. Today I'm deprecating it

#49

Post by austin-cheney »

JaggerJo wrote: post #13
HackerThemAll wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The JavaScript world is littered with stuff comparing to which your patch seems like a complex project. See those examples: https://www.npmjs.com/package/is-odd https://www.npmjs.com/package/is-even https://www.npmjs.com/package/left-pad https://www.npmjs.com/package/is-whitespace-character https://www.npmjs.com/package/isarray

what a broken ecosystem.. The crazy thing is not that the package exists, but that it is used by JS devs.

Everything that touches JavaScript in the corporate world feels broken.

Look at any full stack job post. It’s a mess of tech stack nonsense on the backend for people who are terrified of JavaScript and a layering of framework madness on the frontend for people who are still terrified of JavaScript. So it should be no surprise to see packages like those in common use when people aren’t really writing, or even reading, the real code anyways.

That is just the coding aspect of it. There are many additional challenges to working with a bunch of cowards whose primary job is to pretend to be something they clearly aren’t.

Re: My temporary PHP fix from 2014 has nearly 20M installs. Today I'm deprecating it

#50

Post by sumtechguy »

domh wrote: post #41
HackerThemAll wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The JavaScript world is littered with stuff comparing to which your patch seems like a complex project. See those examples: https://www.npmjs.com/package/is-odd https://www.npmjs.com/package/is-even https://www.npmjs.com/package/left-pad https://www.npmjs.com/package/is-whitespace-character https://www.npmjs.com/package/isarray

These packages are basically memes at this point... Those download figures cannot be accurate for real production usage. I don't believe any programmer is actually using these. isarray and left-pad are at least functions that didn't used to be in the standard library, to slightly excuse them.

I would not bet on that assumption. I have seen some wild code over the years from devs. With 'ai' type coding going on now too you may see them be used even more.
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