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Backups Aren't Simple

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Re: Backups Aren't Simple

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Post by wallst07 »

baxtr wrote: post #79
publlus_enigma wrote: post #20

There are four times in my life I have suffered regrettable data loss incidents. The first was when the telephone pole outside our house was struck directly by lightning. Not only was it the loudest thing I have ever heard, the current surged through the telephone line, into the internal fax modem, and fries everything within its vicinity. I was 10. I did have backuos, but only only floppy and they didn't cover every…

Since we’re talking about it: anyone backing up their iCloud photos? If so, how?

Amazing question with nobody really answering your question 100%.

The answer is : it's hard. If you only have a iphone and more photos on your icloud than can fit on your phone, you're kinda screwed if you don't know what you're doing.

AFAIK Apple makes it very difficult to get all your icloud photos bulk downloaded, original quality off icloud.

Google is no better.

It's much easier to start backing up from the beginning but once you're stuck on icloud it's hard.

Re: Backups Aren't Simple

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Post by wallst07 »

voiceofunreason wrote: post #32
AdieuToLogic wrote: post #27

A friend of mine used to work at Veritas[0] making enterprise data retention solutions. When I spoke about their product as being "making backups", he corrected me by saying: We are not in the backup business. We are in the restoration business. 0 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backup_Exec

Backups are boring. Restores, on the other hand, are often exciting.

If Seinfeld told a backup joke:

"You know how to take the backup, you just don't know how to restore the backup. And that's really the most important part of the backup, the restoring. Anybody can just copy a file!"

Re: Backups Aren't Simple

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Post by RugnirViking »

wallst07 wrote: post #150
dirkc wrote: post #119

> “There are two types of people: those who have suffered a catastrophic loss of data, and those who will.” When I was a teenager, I was the reason for data loss for my dad, twice. Both times it was because I was re-partitioning a hard drive to install linux. You would think that taught me a lesson about backups, instead it reminds me every now and again to be grateful for an awesome dad and aspire to handle situatio…

Reminds me of a story: I was sitting at a restaurant waiting for my food. I casually notice two young children in the next booth playing with a phone, but pay little attention. Moments later their dad (presumably) comes back and asks for his phone back and sits down with their food. The kids are eating and the dad is fumbling with his phone with odd looks and I can see his frustration growing. Then out I hear somethi…

and of course, it doesnt matter that he is their dad, or even that they are small children.

The wise man sees that when a fool has broken his system, its no use getting angry at the fool. Make the system better.

Re: Backups Aren't Simple

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Post by alt227 »

dirkc wrote: post #119

> “There are two types of people: those who have suffered a catastrophic loss of data, and those who will.” When I was a teenager, I was the reason for data loss for my dad, twice. Both times it was because I was re-partitioning a hard drive to install linux. You would think that taught me a lesson about backups, instead it reminds me every now and again to be grateful for an awesome dad and aspire to handle situatio…

I had a similar situation. As a kid I used to poke around on my families windows 3.1 PC and break it all the time.

One day I found an interesting new command called DriveSpace, and it looked exciting. I ran it on the C: drive and then got cold feet and cancelled the operation half way through. Needless to say this was a disk compression application, and I had just unknowingly compressed half my hard disk. Took a long time to figure that one out and I was in trouble with my Dad for bit, but we called a few experts we knew for advice and he included me along the journey to fix it. Something I always try to remember when my kids do something similar.

Re: Backups Aren't Simple

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Post by GTP »

torton wrote: post #76
dsego wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For digital media we really need a good stable archival storage solution. Nothing on the market right now for ordinary people.

There's plenty of backup services and cloud solutions. The article mentions Borg and Restic, others like Backblaze are more consumer friendly. Which needs do you have that aren't met by any of these tools?

I'm using Backblaze, but as a Kopia repository.

Re: Backups Aren't Simple

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Post by Diti »

RugnirViking wrote: post #153
wallst07 wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reminds me of a story: I was sitting at a restaurant waiting for my food. I casually notice two young children in the next booth playing with a phone, but pay little attention. Moments later their dad (presumably) comes back and asks for his phone back and sits down with their food. The kids are eating and the dad is fumbling with his phone with odd looks and I can see his frustration growing. Then out I hear somethi…

and of course, it doesnt matter that he is their dad, or even that they are small children. The wise man sees that when a fool has broken his system, its no use getting angry at the fool. Make the system better.

In this instance, the system worked as designed. Phone got wiped after too many incorrect PIN inputs.

Re: Backups Aren't Simple

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Post by GTP »

iririririr wrote: post #136
podocarp wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In some senses it's good. That feature list just says "use a smartphone then". No thank you. It's everything that a camera should not be. GPS is useful, but not wifi. I don't need my camera becoming another IOT always online telemetry device. They're one of the few electronic devices built to last. Imagine needing fingerprint unlock on a camera, and for what? Prevent others from viewing your photos? Changing your set…

why do you assume a functionality will obligatory be abused against the client? pro camera manufacturers are not google or apple. Have we became that defeatist?

Unfortunately, your comment reminds me that car manufactures aren't Google or Apple either, and still it seems that modern, high-end cars have a tendency of collecting more than what's needed for the car to remain in good shape or be diagnosed. I guess we became so defeatist when more and more companies started realizing they could make extra profit by collecting data from their customers.

Re: Backups Aren't Simple

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Post by GTP »

dsego wrote: post #63
mrheosuper wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sadly after 22 years, it's still considered a "high-end" feature. Even on $1600 Fujifilm x100vi, there is still single SD slot.

I also have the same fuji. Digital cameras are still in the stone ages. I think Tony Northrup covered it well. Nothing has changed since digital cameras came to market, the workflow is still the same, copy files from a card to PC. They aren't connected to the internet, they don't have automatic syncing to cloud for backups or sharing, fuji doesn't even have a gps chip built in to store the location (only works if con…

In case this eases your pain, there exists SD cards with integrated WiFi for ease of data transfer.

Re: Backups Aren't Simple

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Post by sfn42 »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #61
publlus_enigma wrote: post #20

There are four times in my life I have suffered regrettable data loss incidents. The first was when the telephone pole outside our house was struck directly by lightning. Not only was it the loudest thing I have ever heard, the current surged through the telephone line, into the internal fax modem, and fries everything within its vicinity. I was 10. I did have backuos, but only only floppy and they didn't cover every…

OneDrive... So much fail in one single product.

Man i absolutely hate how windows insists that my various personal folders need to be OneDrive and then complains that there's not enough space. I've tried to just disable/remove onedrive but if it's possible it's certainly not easy. I'm pretty sure there's a bunch of stuff I've lost due to the same thing the other guy described, limit was reduced and files just deleted.

Either give me unlimited space or get out of my file system. They could have just made it a separate thing and let me put stuff in there if I wanted to, instead of hijacking my file system and just messing it up.

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