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EU chief opens door for Canada to become 'associate member'

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Post by illiac786 »

Sammi wrote: post #856
illiac786 wrote: post #843

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Inexorably is not the word I would use. It’s hard work. UK is a good example of how fragile it remains, even after decades of membership.

EU got stronger when UK left. Brexit proved the value of EU.

How can it be stronger with a significantly reduced GDP in total (UK GDP removed)? It was a loss for both sides in my view…

Re: EU chief opens door for Canada to become 'associate member'

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Post by mitxela »

mitxela wrote: post #871
method_capital wrote: post #814

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Clearly not an American. Bernie has literally zero chance in a nationwide election. Read it again: ZERO.

He was literally winning until the DNC de-primaried him partway through the election.

de-nominated him partway through the primary, I meant

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Post by braho »

illiac786 wrote: post #881
Sammi wrote: post #856

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EU got stronger when UK left. Brexit proved the value of EU.

How can it be stronger with a significantly reduced GDP in total (UK GDP removed)? It was a loss for both sides in my view…

It can be stronger if you consider more than economic terms. Both sides losing gdp has demonstrated the value of collaboration, which was too implicit, and every eurosceptic party on mainland eu has shifted from ‘we should leave’ to ‘we should reform from within’

Re: EU chief opens door for Canada to become 'associate member'

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Post by braho »

NeutralCrane wrote: post #581
mschuster91 wrote: post #425

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Europe was skeptical ever since 'nam and at the latest Bush Sr's Iraq adventure.

Since the wars in Iraq, sure. Vietnam was the US inheriting Europe’s mess.

US shifting accountability of their choices on account of some mess of others. ‘We had no other choice because you can’t take care of it yourself’

Thats exactly the narrative the rest of the world doesnt take anymore.

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Post by rireads »

altern8 wrote: post #268
RugnirViking wrote: post #183

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of course. Ive not met a person that doesn't like them, either. I love hiking and have travelled pretty wide across europe. Solar panels are similarly lovely to see. I'd just as rather see them than a uniform field of corn or maize or somesuch thing. I can't understand the mindset that objects to such things? is it just a straight up childish nimby "I don't want ANYTHING to be built" or would you prefer natural gas+c…

I mean... Different people have different opinions. I would prefer nuclear

Yikes

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Post by tomhow »

fangspire wrote: post #373
shevy-java wrote: post #153

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Whatever this is meant to mean, please don't post it here. It's absolutely not what this site is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Post by mrtksn »

illiac786 wrote: post #881
Sammi wrote: post #856

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EU got stronger when UK left. Brexit proved the value of EU.

How can it be stronger with a significantly reduced GDP in total (UK GDP removed)? It was a loss for both sides in my view…

It was a loss for both sides but made EU stronger as institution as people were to witness what happens without EU. EU is very useful not only because it coordinates countries but also because it allows politicians do their vote winning bullshit without too much of consequences. Just because showing that quitting EU is possible and what happens next turned anti-EU politicians inti reform-EU politicians.

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Post by hardbass »

gizajob wrote: post #676
jen20 wrote: post #628

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That is a rather fantastical and revisionist version of why the Brexit referendum was called - which had more to do with a misguided attempt to put the crazy wing of the Conservative Party to bed rather than anything to do with the EU, where the UK had the best deal imaginable already.

Nevertheless when put to British voters 50% of them decided that best possible deal still wasn’t in their interests. And that 50% who voted No was more people than even voted in the EU elections (to elect MEPs) before that. So the EU was very much fine with their democratic process seeming like an irrelevance, while at the same time the Brexit vote was actually an example of a democratic process working as it should.…

Of course not. Just by age range, I assume a lot of Brexit voters would be dead by now and younger voters are probably more EU supportive.
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