Live data from Hacker News

Xiaomi Mimo 2.6 live post-training dashboard

mimo.xiaomi.com

21–30 of 146 posts

Re: Xiaomi Mimo 2.6 live post-training dashboard

#21
post #7

When you run benchmarks while training, isn't that the definition of contamination? Asking because I am not sure if this is normal in big labs now.

You gotta have something to aim at. And, presumably, the benchmark is not part of the training data, it is the test against which the model is tested at each stage; is behavior moving in the right direction?

Re: Xiaomi Mimo 2.6 live post-training dashboard

#22
post #7

When you run benchmarks while training, isn't that the definition of contamination? Asking because I am not sure if this is normal in big labs now.

Kinda yes. The benchmarks become part of the validation set, which means the models get slightly overfit to them if they are used as criteria for stopping the training. But a lot less compared to using them in the training data. I'd guess everybody uses at least some benchmarks as stopping criteria, which is kinda sensible, but it also does induce some benchmaxxing, and explains partly why the newest models always te…

Correct. If just stopping criteria, that is less contaminated. The question gets muddier once you also use it to determine hyperparameters during small-scale runs.

Re: Xiaomi Mimo 2.6 live post-training dashboard

#24

I been using MiMo-V2.5 to do most of my work as software engineer, on a variety of projects I'm working on, and I been VERY happy with ROI. The model is very powerful! Not perfect – I've run in hallucination loops once or twice, but nothing a stop-then-continue wouldn't solve. The cost is unbelievably low, and the quality of intelligence I get is equivalent to when I was working mostly with Anthropic models (late las…

I've found that mimo v2.5 works for very basic things like a python script to do one thing, but it also is very 'dumb' compared to qwen 3.8-flash-next (I think the benchmark scores for terminal and coding specific benches back this up). And definitely not in the same class as like a GLM5.2 or 5.3. It's fast but makes basic mistakes that only get caught later.

Re: Xiaomi Mimo 2.6 live post-training dashboard

#26
post #6

Why are they doing this? To try head off accusations about distillation?

That China's official policy is now to prefer open models and open model development may be a part of it.

With that policy in place, labs might be incentivized to be creative in their openness. This being fun/free PR

Re: Xiaomi Mimo 2.6 live post-training dashboard

#29
post #12
post #3

This is pretty neat. What would be a good reason for the other Model providers to not do this?

Speculating here, but I assume researchers can make a reasonable estimate of the size of closed models based on factors like training time, training speed, and the number of tokens processed. Also, Anthropic and OpenAI probably want to keep each other on their toes so they don’t end up on the wrong side of another Opus 4.6 / GPT-5.3-Codex situation, where one lab releases a model only for the other to drop a better o…

I think first of all it’s not an obvious idea, also the marketing surplus for other providers is not as big for openai/anthropic as for xiaomi and last but not least I’m pretty sure you can withdraw methodology from here.

I’m saying who has a million dollars for me, so I can make my own model?

Re: Xiaomi Mimo 2.6 live post-training dashboard

#30

I been using MiMo-V2.5 to do most of my work as software engineer, on a variety of projects I'm working on, and I been VERY happy with ROI. The model is very powerful! Not perfect – I've run in hallucination loops once or twice, but nothing a stop-then-continue wouldn't solve. The cost is unbelievably low, and the quality of intelligence I get is equivalent to when I was working mostly with Anthropic models (late las…

May I ask why you ended up there instead of just using the heavy subsidized subscription. I’m actually curious.
Post reply on HN