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Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

#101

Post by cpcabbge »

ChickeNES wrote: post #92
felixrieseberg wrote: post #46

Hi, this is my team! Happy to answer any questions. There's a lot in this launch, but the core idea is to simplify the product while giving users access to more capabilities. You no longer need to know ahead of time how much work a conversation might involve. If you're at your computer, Claude can use your local files and apps. If you close your laptop, Claude can keep working on its own computer. This launch also le…

> Claude Design, Claude Docs, and Claude Slides Why/when would I ever need any of these? Can't y'all focus on useful features instead?

There are a lot of people using this outside of the coding space, most of my friends use these to create decks and things like that to present. Mind you they never double check information and numbers.

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

#102

Post by jampekka »

idle_zealot wrote: post #49
royal__ wrote: post #8

These kinds of updates always have this romantic scenario of someone having Claude develop a presentation or something on their way to work between multiple devices, which actually feels a little sad and does not align with what happens in my life at all.

This is a nightmare scenario to me. "Claude, prepare me a presentation on XYZ." I get to work, go straight to the meeting room, and pull up what it made to present. It's barely coherent nonsense. Lots of irrelevant details, buzz words, wrong charts or confusing phrasing. Obviously LLM output. I read it out. When I'm done, I get a question about one of Claude's incorrectly inferred details. The shame instantly kills m…

> It's barely coherent nonsense. Lots of irrelevant details, buzz words, wrong charts or confusing phrasing. Obviously LLM output.

Plenty of that even before LLMs too though.

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

#103

Post by dcchuck »

Sherveen wrote: post #6

People keep asking for this w/ Codex, too, and I really regret that both labs seem inclined to listen. If you ask a thinking/research type question in 'Chat' versus 'Work' mode in these products -- say, something complex about politics, or do a multiturn business strategy, or want to work thru a new concept, you get very different answers. The harness, steering, etc. in the chat/reasoning products is so much better f…

In one of the earlier iterations of this they at least made the UX distinguish Codex vs. ChatGPT which I really enjoyed.

I must admit I spent a little time in ChatGPT this weekend, thinking I was in Codex. After some unexpected behavior (disappointed) I realized my mistake.

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

#104

Post by ChickeNES »

cpcabbge wrote: post #101
ChickeNES wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Claude Design, Claude Docs, and Claude Slides Why/when would I ever need any of these? Can't y'all focus on useful features instead?

There are a lot of people using this outside of the coding space, most of my friends use these to create decks and things like that to present. Mind you they never double check information and numbers.

> create decks and things like that to present

Not really proving their usefulness there :P

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

#105

Post by Calazon »

ceejayoz wrote: post #68
TutleCpt wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why on earth would you present a presentation that you haven't reviewed ahead of time?

I wish I knew, but I've definitely seen it happen. "What does this bit mean?" "I dunno."

That sounds incredibly frustrating. It's bad enough in code reviews, but is that approach to work being tolerated in meetings these days?

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

#106

Post by hmokiguess »

dang wrote: post #43
hmokiguess wrote: post #14

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" Don't be snarky. " " Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something. " https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

My point with above is to criticize their strategy, I have been losing faith on Anthropic and feeling like they are throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks in a more desperate fashion rather than careful one. This sort of decision to me, alongside all their other initiatives recently with shipping agentic PaaS rather than enabling others to build with their tools has been a miss on thoughtful leadership. Sorry for the snark take, thank you for moderating.

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

#107

Post by doublerabbit »

emadabdulrahim wrote: post #42
petcat wrote: post #10

Nobody really knows how to product-ize any of these LLM interfaces beyond just chat. They don't want a traditional UI with buttons and forms and labels because they want the interface to be "chat". The problem is that "chat" is tedious. And the turn-based, linear nature of the chat interaction model makes it even more tedious and unproductive.

IMO no one knows what LLMs are capable of yet and the goal post keeping moving every few months that building any specific UIs right now risks rendering them obsolete or too slow. e.g. We went from somewhat smarter code autocomplete, to asking chatgpt copy paste, to cli agent running inside your project, managing session, to GUI to manage that, to projects where you talk to a "Chief of Staff" agent that manages other…

We have all that? I'm still copying and pasting off the WebUI of ChatGPT.

Traditional and boring works for me.

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

#108

Post by evanpurkhiser »

browningstreet wrote: post #41
royal__ wrote: post #8

These kinds of updates always have this romantic scenario of someone having Claude develop a presentation or something on their way to work between multiple devices, which actually feels a little sad and does not align with what happens in my life at all.

I use Claude/opencode and Orca and Hermes across my vpses, Macbook, Linux, and iOS devices. This is exactly how I want to keep working.

Would be interested to hear more about your setup!

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

#109

Post by sleazebreeze »

Cyan488 wrote: post #86
idle_zealot wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a nightmare scenario to me. "Claude, prepare me a presentation on XYZ." I get to work, go straight to the meeting room, and pull up what it made to present. It's barely coherent nonsense. Lots of irrelevant details, buzz words, wrong charts or confusing phrasing. Obviously LLM output. I read it out. When I'm done, I get a question about one of Claude's incorrectly inferred details. The shame instantly kills m…

Someone I know does this, and seems to think it's a flex, because he bragged about it being "the first time I've actually seen this presentation" a few times during the presentation. It was all awful.

At my previous company, a distinguished engineer did this. Used generated slides he hadn't looked at until presenting to the entire staff+ engineer group. The slides weren't good and he mostly ignored them.

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

#110

Post by pborenstein »

kylecazar wrote: post #35
royal__ wrote: post #8

These kinds of updates always have this romantic scenario of someone having Claude develop a presentation or something on their way to work between multiple devices, which actually feels a little sad and does not align with what happens in my life at all.

"Plan a trip to Italy next month and book the flights" I see a version of that all the time and would never, ever do it.

"Find a primary care physician in my area who is taking new patients and accepts my insurance. Give me your top three candidates, and book an appointment within the next six weeks with your top choice."

Claude: Would you like to go to Bermuda instead?

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