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Re: OpenAI expands ChatGPT ads with Sponsored Agents

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Post by jedberg »

cmiles8 wrote: post #22

Who actually wants this? I guess we’re about to find out if this helps put out the massive pile of burning cash that OpenAI is trying to deal with, but I know nobody that wants this. OpenAI claims we’re near AGI and this is the best strategy they have? Oy vey!

I'll be a little contrarian here. I've actually purchased things from Instagram ads. Because they were highly targeted and actually something I wanted once I learned it existed. It was a solution to a problem I had but never researched for a solution.

I'm guessing ChatGPT will be able to do the same for me, especially since it probably knows me better than Instagram at this point, just given all the things I ask it.

If they do it right, it will be helpful. The big question is will they do it right.

Re: OpenAI expands ChatGPT ads with Sponsored Agents

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Post by theptip »

grey-area wrote: post #84
theptip wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disagree, they need a lot of capital in the next couple years, and the more revenue they have today, the more data centers they can start building. Also investors (particularly non-AGI-pilled) want to see revenue number go up, regardless of AGI. This juices the IPO.

If they need capital in the short term and were anywhere close to AGI, they could easily generate it, by spinning up their incredibly capable and intelligent agents to generate capital through doing useful work. They could also fire entire departments within their own org and replace them with agents, if they had something close to AGI. Instead they are selling a dream to the gullible, and advertisements to go along…

What you describe is IMO “fully obtained AGI”, what I’m arguing for is consistent with “That said AGI is a fuzzy term and you’ll model the world poorly if you treat it as a binary state.

Re: OpenAI expands ChatGPT ads with Sponsored Agents

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Post by beering »

kryogen1c wrote: post #87
cmiles8 wrote: post #22

Who actually wants this? I guess we’re about to find out if this helps put out the massive pile of burning cash that OpenAI is trying to deal with, but I know nobody that wants this. OpenAI claims we’re near AGI and this is the best strategy they have? Oy vey!

> Who actually wants this? I mean, not to be rude to this and all sibling commenters, but obviously everyone? I feel like this comment has no basis in reality. People want things cheaper and they tolerate ads. Those two things put together means everything gets ads and gets cheaper? YouTube exists for free and costs billions to run. Companies A/B test ad tiers and paid non-ad tiers, and the results are always the sam…

You’re not rude for pointing out the obvious. The parent comment is complaining in bad faith because they want to have free service in perpetuity. Similar to the people complaining about YouTube ads but the options of either paying or not watching YouTube are unimaginable.

Re: OpenAI expands ChatGPT ads with Sponsored Agents

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Post by theptip »

bbg2401 wrote: post #76
theptip wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this not just connecting you with a sales rep? If so, who wants this is literally every mainstream consumer. AFAICT the flow is click ad then get an agent that is grounded in the official sales resources. This should mean the agent has the latest and canonical product catalog, offers, etc. so the users own agent doesn’t need to search on the web. Fun ideas - can my main agent invoke these as a sub-agent, so I can…

> who wants this is literally every mainstream consumer. Any basis for believing this?

I hyperbolize, and I apologize.

But it’s a huge market segment already: NYSE:CRM, NYSE:HUBS would be some starting points.

Also, just analogizing to how consumers interact with retail, you have reps you can talk to, this is a proven model for millennia, and it’s one of the big gaps in online sales.

“This is not in fact a sales rep” would be a reasonable objection. “People do not want sales reps” is a weird position to take IMO.

Re: OpenAI expands ChatGPT ads with Sponsored Agents

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Post by tomjen3 »

cmiles8 wrote: post #22

Who actually wants this? I guess we’re about to find out if this helps put out the massive pile of burning cash that OpenAI is trying to deal with, but I know nobody that wants this. OpenAI claims we’re near AGI and this is the best strategy they have? Oy vey!

I wanted to buy a JetKVM earlier, but could not find any that I could see shipped in Europe.

That would be an obvious question to ask their chatbot.

Re: OpenAI expands ChatGPT ads with Sponsored Agents

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Post by grey-area »

therealdrag0 wrote: post #98
grey-area wrote: post #3

None of this would be necessary if they thought they were actually anywhere near AGI...hmm.

The “AGI” bar comments are so tiring.

When OpenAI (including Altman, Brockman etc) stop talking about AGI, we can all stop talking about AGI. I'd happily do so.

Currently their actions completely contradict their claims of emergent intelligence.

Re: OpenAI expands ChatGPT ads with Sponsored Agents

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Post by probably_wrong »

subarctic wrote: post #99
hightrix wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the lie advertisers tell themselves to be able to sleep at night. Ads are cancer on content. No one wants them. They only serve to make the presentation of useful content worse.

Ads are useful, they help you reach customers

The fact that ads are one of two types of content for which people regularly install blockers (with porn coming second) speaks volumes about how useful they really are.

Re: OpenAI expands ChatGPT ads with Sponsored Agents

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Post by drivebyhooting »

I pay $200/month for ChatGPT. Maybe people should just pay for the service instead of relying of freebies?

It’s worth it. Already saved me more than $30,000 in a business transaction by negotiating for me.

I’m not going to use a CPA in the coming tax seasons either. I’m determined to not pay for any white collar labor if I can avoid it.

Re: OpenAI expands ChatGPT ads with Sponsored Agents

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Post by grey-area »

theptip wrote: post #102
grey-area wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they need capital in the short term and were anywhere close to AGI, they could easily generate it, by spinning up their incredibly capable and intelligent agents to generate capital through doing useful work. They could also fire entire departments within their own org and replace them with agents, if they had something close to AGI. Instead they are selling a dream to the gullible, and advertisements to go along…

What you describe is IMO “fully obtained AGI”, what I’m arguing for is consistent with “ That said AGI is a fuzzy term and you’ll model the world poorly if you treat it as a binary state.

Prominent figures in OpenAI have claimed they have already attained AGI.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/openai-releases-its-lat...

"OpenAI released its latest model, GPT-6 Astra, on Thursday, with company President Greg Brockman calling it the beginning of the artificial general intelligence (AGI) era."

But they're still peddling ads instead of improving the world. How odd.

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