Why did we not get the cool dystopia ala Gibson's Chiba City?
Hackers Got Inside a Flock Camera
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#12This reporting was done in collaboration with 404media. Here's the discussion for 404's article: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49726577 Distributed Denial of Secrets has published the partition images: https://ddosecrets.org/article/flock-alpr-camera
I poked around in the boot partition. The kernel is ancient!
Linux version 3.18.71-perf-gaf770dc
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#14Why did we not get the cool dystopia ala Gibson's Chiba City?
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#16I think I should start posting a reminder in Flock threads that Axon is a Flock competitor, is also engaged in mass surveillance, and is possibly even worse, but there’s rarely any mention of it. Journalists need to do some digging there. This shouldn’t just be a Flock story, or Flock will just get bought up or something and everyone will move on. (The above should not be read as supporting Flock or discouraging furt…
"Axon is Flock but worse" will be the next big fight as police departments are pulling a fast one and saying "we got rid of Flock" by switching to Axon.
Axon is the default for the on-body camera system. The barrage of cop tv shows use them as part of their promotional relationships. Flock decided to not attack their market, in stead go for the adjacent space.
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#17This reporting was done in collaboration with 404media. Here's the discussion for 404's article: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49726577 Distributed Denial of Secrets has published the partition images: https://ddosecrets.org/article/flock-alpr-camera
I poked around in the boot partition. The kernel is ancient! Linux version 3.18.71-perf-gaf770dc
The oldest supported kernel is 5.10 and that loses support in December. That's wild they are using a 3.X kernel
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#18I think I should start posting a reminder in Flock threads that Axon is a Flock competitor, is also engaged in mass surveillance, and is possibly even worse, but there’s rarely any mention of it. Journalists need to do some digging there. This shouldn’t just be a Flock story, or Flock will just get bought up or something and everyone will move on. (The above should not be read as supporting Flock or discouraging furt…
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#19So… all that data is literally there for any unauthorized person to walk up and take it. It’s not even suitably encrypted on device? Zero trust in anything Flock says.
It is bad.
But think the real danger in Flock is the aggregate data, tracking between camaras. So if someone hacks a single camara, they probably don't get much, unless it is pointed right at someone, which is bad. Aren't they selling these as should be pointing at traffic? If they are pointing right at people, like at playgrounds, then they are being installed illegally to begin with ?
Re: Hackers Got Inside a Flock Camera
#20I think I should start posting a reminder in Flock threads that Axon is a Flock competitor, is also engaged in mass surveillance, and is possibly even worse, but there’s rarely any mention of it. Journalists need to do some digging there. This shouldn’t just be a Flock story, or Flock will just get bought up or something and everyone will move on. (The above should not be read as supporting Flock or discouraging furt…
While highly unprofessional, the "Who's a good boy?!" status message makes me like them a tiny bit more