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The Google Play app review process now regularly takes longer than a week

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Re: The Google Play app review process now regularly takes longer than a week

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Post by bpx51 »

joshstrange wrote: post #45
basisword wrote: post #31

For all the complaining about Apple's store, the Play Store has always been worse imo. You can't even release an app without first doing a beta test with at least a dozen people.

> You can't even release an app without first doing a beta test with at least a dozen people. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding what you are saying here but less than a month ago I released a brand new app with no beta period, direct to production (white labeled app, which is why I didn't need a beta)

Same happened to me yesterday, I published a new app and it was reviewed and published within a few hours without any beta testing. but I think this is why I see people ready to buy old playstore accounts for real money, maybe this only affects new accounts

Re: The Google Play app review process now regularly takes longer than a week

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Post by duskdozer »

setgree wrote: post #49
Gareth321 wrote: post #18

MAYBE operating systems shouldn't have gatekeepers which can deny access to billions of customers for any and no reason at all. Apple and Google are WELL past due for regulation in this space. The fact that we cannot download and install software from the internet onto our phones JUST like we can do with our computers is a symbol of our inept and ineffective politicians. And before someone says "well akshully you can…

And what should we do about apps' getting hacked, sending out malicious updates that get auto-updated and thereby infecting tens of millions or billions of phones simultaneously? I'm not saying we have the perfect system but anything that slants the system towards "easier downloads" or "less gatekeeping" brings large, obvious risks. I don't see how regulation would address them.

That's a tangential issue.

1. don't force auto-updates

2. still review apps uploaded to Google Play, but don't force users to use Google Play

If the concern is what if users use an alternate source for apps and those have viruses, then.... okay. If the user wants to stay with strictly Google-vetted apps, they can. If desired, you could have an option on setup that users could choose to select that would put the device in a restricted mode that can only use apps installed from Google Play.

But the motivation here isn't just security, it's control. Google doesn't want anyone to have an Android device that is independent of Google services.

Re: The Google Play app review process now regularly takes longer than a week

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Post by basilikum »

setgree wrote: post #49
Gareth321 wrote: post #18

MAYBE operating systems shouldn't have gatekeepers which can deny access to billions of customers for any and no reason at all. Apple and Google are WELL past due for regulation in this space. The fact that we cannot download and install software from the internet onto our phones JUST like we can do with our computers is a symbol of our inept and ineffective politicians. And before someone says "well akshully you can…

And what should we do about apps' getting hacked, sending out malicious updates that get auto-updated and thereby infecting tens of millions or billions of phones simultaneously? I'm not saying we have the perfect system but anything that slants the system towards "easier downloads" or "less gatekeeping" brings large, obvious risks. I don't see how regulation would address them.

People accidentally hurt themselves with kitchen knives every day. They are also very often used for violent crimes.

Clearly we need to regulate the kitchen knife industry more. There should be a central authority that sells authorized kitchen knives with at max 6cm length and all other knives should only be available to certified chefs.

Once we have outlawed the longer knives and strong restrictions on ordinary kitchen tools become normal we should just outlaw knives altogether. You can still hurt yourself with a short knife. Only chefs should ever be allowed to own such a dangerous tool. Just buy or order readily prepared food. Why would you do this weird nerd thing called cooking anyway? Just choose from the official list of allowed foods.

The idea that we have to prevent people from being in control of their own computers — that's what a smartphone is — is deeply dystopian and authoritarian.

Re: The Google Play app review process now regularly takes longer than a week

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Post by DrammBA »

davidmurdoch wrote: post #84

I'm partly to blame. I accidentally ran an illegal unregulated money transference service over Google Play. It let users cash out their Google Play Credits for real cash, which I automatically wired them. Someone then hacked in to a major bookstore chain, stole piles of Google Play Gift cards, activated them using their access, and used my app to get cash for them. Luckily, the whole thing blew up on me before I got…

I love how casually you're dropping this incredible piece of internet lore as if somebody asked you how's the weather.

Re: The Google Play app review process now regularly takes longer than a week

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Post by brewtide »

joshstrange wrote: post #45
basisword wrote: post #31

For all the complaining about Apple's store, the Play Store has always been worse imo. You can't even release an app without first doing a beta test with at least a dozen people.

> You can't even release an app without first doing a beta test with at least a dozen people. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding what you are saying here but less than a month ago I released a brand new app with no beta period, direct to production (white labeled app, which is why I didn't need a beta)

I'm just working on my first app (thanks to AI...) and if you have a new dev account created sometime after 2023 they are making you do a 12 person, 14 day beta run before anything else occurs, apparently.

Re: The Google Play app review process now regularly takes longer than a week

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Post by nchmy »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #77
nchmy wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Open Web Advocacy's goal is Chrome on all platforms, which just means the Play Store problem gets even worse. The moment OWA wins, the open web dies. These are people with a truly bad astroturfy goal, clothed in charitable nonprofit status. Paradoxically, as long as WebKit is mandatory on iOS, the open web is safe: Websites have to build for a lowest common denominator standard instead of building for Chrome propriet…

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Re: The Google Play app review process now regularly takes longer than a week

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Post by jprjr_ »

misnome wrote: post #118
compass_copium wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At some point computers need to stop being treated as magical boxes that no reasonable person can learn how to use safely. We expect people who use cars to learn how to use them safely, we expect people who use lawnmowers to not stick their fingers in them. Computers have been a part of daily life for normies for decades at this point, it's infantilizing to suggest that average, non-tech savvy people can't learn to u…

Using a computer wrong doesn't kill people.

Yes and no.

The computer itself won't really do anything. But I'm sure suicides go up when people lose all their money, or get personal private details leaked, and so on.

Re: The Google Play app review process now regularly takes longer than a week

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Post by nchmy »

cyanydeez wrote: post #75
nchmy wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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we have an open web. no ones pays for it. Anyone can put up a PWA. The only org that hates this is Apple. The complaint is about a shared resource, which would require governments to adopt open source policies and _pay_ for it just like they do the post office. But ya'll hate government, so here we are.

why invest in developing a PWA if a significant portion of (particularly wealthy) users cant use it?

Re: The Google Play app review process now regularly takes longer than a week

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Post by sync »

joshstrange wrote: post #45
basisword wrote: post #31

For all the complaining about Apple's store, the Play Store has always been worse imo. You can't even release an app without first doing a beta test with at least a dozen people.

> You can't even release an app without first doing a beta test with at least a dozen people. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding what you are saying here but less than a month ago I released a brand new app with no beta period, direct to production (white labeled app, which is why I didn't need a beta)

As an individual that 'dozen people beta test' is required. It's not required if you're a business. Also depends on when your account was created.

https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answ...

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