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Re: Mistral X Mozilla: Private, Multilingual AI Browsing

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Post by spwa4 »

peri-cl wrote: post #5

This is an excellent use case for completely local, small model inference, yet for inexplicable reasons Mozilla wants to normalize uploading your entire private browsing history to a cloud. These (Mistral's and Mozilla's) marketing pages aren't candid enough to clearly explain the difference between local and cloud inference, and that they're asking you to consent to enabling the latter. I'd call that the bare minimu…

Except ... this is not local. It's a remote service. Here is something that is:

    docker run ghcr.io/open-webui/open-webui:v0.11.3
    docker run mcr.microsoft.com/playwright/mcp:latest
Configure them. Open-webui needs a model (a local qwen3.8 does amazing), and you need to link them up. Playwright will just do stuff.

Re: Mistral X Mozilla: Private, Multilingual AI Browsing

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Post by fn-mote »

karussell wrote: post #6
sourcecodeplz wrote: post #4

Seems like what Chrome has with the default built-in Gemini Nano model. Hey at least "some" news/things from Mistral. Seems like ages ago when they launched vibe-code. > Powers context-aware search, page summaries, and memory retrieval across browser tabs. > Live in France and North America, with launches in the UK and Germany planned for later this year. > Built on a zero data retention policy; conversations are not…

I don't think it is comparable. Nowhere in the news they say it is offline but IMO Gemini Nano is offline (?) I'm not a Google fan but I never understood the outrage as it is a local model ... sure, you have to trust them, but if you use their browser you already do.

> Nowhere in the news they say it is offline

Reading HN, I 100% understood “private” to be marketing copy for “local inference”.

How else could the information be kept private?

I begrudgingly suppose that there is precedent for the usage, like Apple’s Private Relay, but I really don’t think they are comparable.

Re: Mistral X Mozilla: Private, Multilingual AI Browsing

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Post by Good4boothee »

Madmallard wrote: post #14

"Private" Guess we just using buzzwords for marketing and have no morality or principles anymore. Bad timeline and people you should just not trust.

All previous similar issues got hand waved with "Mozilla has to make money somehow". I am afraid one day remaining users will decide that Chromium based browsers provide a better experience in most use cases, and now have same privacy guarantees as Firefox. Looking at market share maybe that had already happened and pragmatism won over ideology, and we will all suffer the consequences of such monoculture.

Re: Mistral X Mozilla: Private, Multilingual AI Browsing

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Post by mixcocam »

Would be very cool if you could type a long query and the model would just build an advanced google search query using what you typed. You could even ship a tiny model in the browser itself that does that.

Something like: "blog posts which talk about using sending emails to yourself as a notes taking mechanism".

The output could look like: "note taking" OR "notes" ("emailing yourself" OR "email to myself" OR "email yourself") (inurl:blog OR inurl:posts OR site:medium.com OR site:substack.com)

Re: Mistral X Mozilla: Private, Multilingual AI Browsing

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Post by amelius »

mixcocam wrote: post #26

Would be very cool if you could type a long query and the model would just build an advanced google search query using what you typed. You could even ship a tiny model in the browser itself that does that. Something like: "blog posts which talk about using sending emails to yourself as a notes taking mechanism". The output could look like: "note taking" OR "notes" ("emailing yourself" OR "email to myself" OR "email y…

It wouldn't be cool because it would still hand your data to Google.

Re: Mistral X Mozilla: Private, Multilingual AI Browsing

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Post by Timshel »

fn-mote wrote: post #22
karussell wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it is comparable. Nowhere in the news they say it is offline but IMO Gemini Nano is offline (?) I'm not a Google fan but I never understood the outrage as it is a local model ... sure, you have to trust them, but if you use their browser you already do.

> Nowhere in the news they say it is offline Reading HN, I 100% understood “private” to be marketing copy for “local inference”. How else could the information be kept private? I begrudgingly suppose that there is precedent for the usage, like Apple’s Private Relay, but I really don’t think they are comparable.

> conversations aren’t saved on Mozilla’s servers by default, and partners like Mistral agree to zero data retention.

I don't read this as offline ...

Re: Mistral X Mozilla: Private, Multilingual AI Browsing

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Post by _flux »

amelius wrote: post #27
mixcocam wrote: post #26

Would be very cool if you could type a long query and the model would just build an advanced google search query using what you typed. You could even ship a tiny model in the browser itself that does that. Something like: "blog posts which talk about using sending emails to yourself as a notes taking mechanism". The output could look like: "note taking" OR "notes" ("emailing yourself" OR "email to myself" OR "email y…

It wouldn't be cool because it would still hand your data to Google.

I assume Google was just a placeholder for a search engine in the example. And you'll surely need some service to search the web.
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