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EU chief opens door for Canada to become 'associate member'

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Re: EU chief opens door for Canada to become 'associate member'

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Good, if the middle power democracies don't align/work together they are going to get torn apart in the struggle between the US and China.

70% of Canadian exports are to the US. 6% to the EU. Why would e.g. Poland want to enter a trade war with the US on Canada's behalf?

If "70% of Canadian exports are to the US", that's probably why the US has so much leverage, and I can see why the Canadian government would like a change. Hence the need for a rebalancing of trade partnerships.

Re: EU chief opens door for Canada to become 'associate member'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

One thing that is common about middle democracies is that prioritize a bureaucratic elite structure over an entrepreneurship culture, while both the US and China embrace entreprenuership wholeheartedly. If they changed that they'd perhaps become world powers themselves.

> One thing that is common about middle democracies is that prioritize a bureaucratic elite structure over an entrepreneurship culture No, that's just the 2010s propaganda fed to you by people who assert that not letting them do whatever they want is "bureaucratic". These very same people are completely fine lobbying legislature for more moat when they benefit from it. The difference between "middle democracies" or w…

I did some admin work for the startup around 5 years ago and I have to say EU countries specially mine Sweden is far more clear. In USA you are basically hopeless without a lawyer. but I did a search and for clarity of rule I searched and this came up using AI:

World Bank’s broad “Regulatory Quality” measure supports that direction: Sweden scored 95.28/100 and the US 90.57/100 in its latest comparable 2023 data. I couldn't find EU wide score.

I wanted to help someone to get work visa and I thought it is like Sweden and you just fill a small form, oh boy! We hired a lawyer for just filling the US side application.

Re: EU chief opens door for Canada to become 'associate member'

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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

70% of Canadian exports are to the US. 6% to the EU. Why would e.g. Poland want to enter a trade war with the US on Canada's behalf?

Because the US is going to throw Poland under the bus without even considering once if it yields a short-term benefit.

Under the bus again, I might add

Re: EU chief opens door for Canada to become 'associate member'

#85
post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

70% of Canadian exports are to the US. 6% to the EU. Why would e.g. Poland want to enter a trade war with the US on Canada's behalf?

If "70% of Canadian exports are to the US", that's probably why the US has so much leverage, and I can see why the Canadian government would like a change. Hence the need for a rebalancing of trade partnerships.

Wouldn't being strongly aligned with the EU give Canada a lot more leverage in trade discussions with the US?

Re: EU chief opens door for Canada to become 'associate member'

#86
post #6

Good, if the middle power democracies don't align/work together they are going to get torn apart in the struggle between the US and China.

One thing that is common about middle democracies is that prioritize a bureaucratic elite structure over an entrepreneurship culture, while both the US and China embrace entreprenuership wholeheartedly. If they changed that they'd perhaps become world powers themselves.

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Re: EU chief opens door for Canada to become 'associate member'

#87
post #42

Good, if the middle power democracies don't align/work together they are going to get torn apart in the struggle between the US and China.

70% of Canadian exports are to the US. 6% to the EU. Why would e.g. Poland want to enter a trade war with the US on Canada's behalf?

Deals right now are intended to increase the trades between Canada and reducing those with the US, in little improvement steps.

If in 10 years the ratio moves from 70/6 to 50/26, the situation will be vastly different.

The options are not black and white

Re: EU chief opens door for Canada to become 'associate member'

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No idea what this actually means, if it means easier trade, I'm all for anything that reduces our dependency on the yanks, as long as we don't need to be involved in their regulatory or legal regimes. The Americans are no longer our friends, Salut, mes amis Européens. :)

> as long as we don't need to be involved in their regulatory or legal regimes

EU has such a bad name in these circles. As a EU citizen, I cherish these same regimes.

Re: EU chief opens door for Canada to become 'associate member'

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From Blackberry to a budding VFX industry and many other sustainable businesses to come out of Canada has always made it seem like a very EU-like philosophy. This will be great for fair trade.

Blackberry is a sustainable business?

Blackberry might not be, but RIM are still around, QNX is still in use.

Re: EU chief opens door for Canada to become 'associate member'

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post #42

Good, if the middle power democracies don't align/work together they are going to get torn apart in the struggle between the US and China.

70% of Canadian exports are to the US. 6% to the EU. Why would e.g. Poland want to enter a trade war with the US on Canada's behalf?

It's not that they want to enter a trade war with Trump, it's that there's large room for growth in trade between Canada and Poland (your example).

Since Trump is hostile to trade with both parties there's an opportunity to replace lost US trade that's probably not coming back.

Trump has weakened himself and his allies where as mutual trade between Canada and the EU makes both stronger.

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