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Re: Dario, Please

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Post by otabdeveloper4 » Wed, Sep 16, 2026, 8:34 AM UTC

verdverm wrote: post #308

otabdeveloper4 wrote: post #294

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There's a simple and very logical definition of what a "world war" is - it's when international law completely breaks down, and the only way to get back to a semblance of order in international relations is to have the victors of the ensuing shitstorm impose a new set of rules in some sort of grand finale pact. 1945 was clearly that. 1920 with the League of Nations attempted to be that, but failed. Whatever happens a…

> Whatever happens after the current turbulence we can be sure Have you put your money behind this on future gambling sites? How can you be so sure?

Because the UN, NATO, etc., are clearly not working now. They're not gonna be fixed to work as designed because that's quite impossible in today's world.

Re: Dario, Please

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Post by exfalso » Wed, Sep 16, 2026, 12:51 PM UTC

amouat wrote: post #261

exfalso wrote: post #256

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No that's not what they did, they exposed jfrog raw. It would have been so extremely simple to gate services they need the llm to access... I mean, jfrog was not written with this kind of threat model in mind, and neither were a lot of other tools

Right, you mean it didn't go through a gateway? But would that actually have helped? The requests all went through jfrog didn't they? I guess it depends on the level of filtering at the gateway? Whilst it might not be JFrog's threat model, I wouldn't assume it can be used as a full internet proxy. I don't really mean to defend OpenAI here, but they did make some attempts at sandboxing. Although it does seem that they…

It would have been a case of isolating exactly what functionality is needed and wiring that up with the actual requests. Not like a full pass-through proxy. This is what we've been doing in our company as well

Re: Dario, Please

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Post by rphv » Wed, Sep 16, 2026, 1:59 PM UTC

Kakashi4 wrote: post #276

xhevahir wrote: post #230

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It's frustrating to see smart people failing to recognize a prisoner's dilemma when they see one.

What is the prisoner's dilemma here? I am a dumb person

If you choose to slow down (cooperate) and the other side doesn't, you lose more than if you didn't try to slow down. In order to succeed (gain mutual advantage) both parties have to choose to cooperate without knowing beforehand what the other party will do.

Re: Dario, Please

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Post by rphv » Wed, Sep 16, 2026, 2:03 PM UTC

Isn't it telling that Musk, Altman, Hassabis, Amodei are all signaling fear of what unchecked AI development could do? These guys can't normally agree on the color of the sky. Let's give them credit for trying to sound the alarm.