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Web Developer Admits: Objective-C Beats HTML5

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Re: Web Developer Admits: Objective-C Beats HTML5

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Beats it in how easy it is to create, yes. But HTML5 is cross platform, and if done properly, the speed differences are not noticeable to the human eye.

In fact, "Fastbook" is proof that an HTML5 app can be FASTER than it's iOS counterpart. http://www.sencha.com/blog/the-making-of-fastbook-an-html5-l...

Check out their video. They literally duplicated the iOS functionality, and made it faster, with HTML5.

Re: Web Developer Admits: Objective-C Beats HTML5

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Beats it in how easy it is to create, yes. But HTML5 is cross platform, and if done properly, the speed differences are not noticeable to the human eye. In fact, "Fastbook" is proof that an HTML5 app can be FASTER than it's iOS counterpart. http://www.sencha.com/blog/the-making-of-fastbook-an-html5-l... Check out their video. They literally duplicated the iOS functionality, and made it faster, with HTML5.

They did not "literally duplicate the iOS functionality." After months of work, and modifying their own framework, they produced...a technology demo, which omits core functionality like searching.

Also, I don't agree that the Fastbook app is HTML5 "done properly." From their article:

So the Fastbook app is the first to make use of a brand new “Sandbox Container” which programmatically detaches complex views and renders them into their own iframes, and thus partitioning the DOM tree...events, positioning, styling, and JavaScript code have to be proxied between the parent window and the child sandboxes.

I would characterize this as "heroics."

Re: Web Developer Admits: Objective-C Beats HTML5

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Beats it in how easy it is to create, yes. But HTML5 is cross platform, and if done properly, the speed differences are not noticeable to the human eye. In fact, "Fastbook" is proof that an HTML5 app can be FASTER than it's iOS counterpart. http://www.sencha.com/blog/the-making-of-fastbook-an-html5-l... Check out their video. They literally duplicated the iOS functionality, and made it faster, with HTML5.

Given the considerable resources that Facebook has, and the amount of effort they put into an HTML5 application at first, it seems reasonable that native still gives a much superior experience. Sencha has done some great things, but one must consider the bias Sencha has for HTML5 to be great. It is in Facebook's best interest to deliver the best experience possible, but it is in Sencha's interest to deliver promising HTML5 results.

I'm not sure we can mark this as a win for HTML5, but what Sencha did is impressive. HTML5 will certainly continue to grow, and this is a fantastic step forward.

You are also correct that HTML5 is cross platform, and Sencha has proven that HTML5 can be taken into serious consideration when starting a new project.

Re: Web Developer Admits: Objective-C Beats HTML5

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Beats it in how easy it is to create, yes. But HTML5 is cross platform, and if done properly, the speed differences are not noticeable to the human eye. In fact, "Fastbook" is proof that an HTML5 app can be FASTER than it's iOS counterpart. http://www.sencha.com/blog/the-making-of-fastbook-an-html5-l... Check out their video. They literally duplicated the iOS functionality, and made it faster, with HTML5.

Do you have any example of HTML5 "done properly"? I don't believe I've ever seen any. (Yes, saw the video link, but it would be nice to have something I can actually try.)

Re: Web Developer Admits: Objective-C Beats HTML5

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Beats it in how easy it is to create, yes. But HTML5 is cross platform, and if done properly, the speed differences are not noticeable to the human eye. In fact, "Fastbook" is proof that an HTML5 app can be FASTER than it's iOS counterpart. http://www.sencha.com/blog/the-making-of-fastbook-an-html5-l... Check out their video. They literally duplicated the iOS functionality, and made it faster, with HTML5.

> HTML5 done properly

I've seen Gmail.app on a friend's iPhone 4S (with dual-core A5) and it's slower than Apple's Mail.app on my sister's iPhone 3G (with a 300MHz ARMv6, which I think is under clocked to 230MHz or something like that).

When Google (king of the Internet and HTML5) fails to "do HTML5 properly", then the rest of us really don't have much chance.

(and, no, it's not (entirely) UIWebView's fault. If Google were allowed to use Nitro or V8, Gmail.app would be 40% faster. But that iPhone 5's CPU is like 20 times faster than that crummy old iPhone 3G)

Re: Web Developer Admits: Objective-C Beats HTML5

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Beats it in how easy it is to create, yes. But HTML5 is cross platform, and if done properly, the speed differences are not noticeable to the human eye. In fact, "Fastbook" is proof that an HTML5 app can be FASTER than it's iOS counterpart. http://www.sencha.com/blog/the-making-of-fastbook-an-html5-l... Check out their video. They literally duplicated the iOS functionality, and made it faster, with HTML5.

> HTML5 done properly I've seen Gmail.app on a friend's iPhone 4S (with dual-core A5) and it's slower than Apple's Mail.app on my sister's iPhone 3G (with a 300MHz ARMv6, which I think is under clocked to 230MHz or something like that). When Google (king of the Internet and HTML5) fails to "do HTML5 properly", then the rest of us really don't have much chance. (and, no, it's not (entirely) UIWebView's fault. If Googl…

I wasn't aware the gmail ios app is HTML5. Do you have some link that claims that it is?
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