Stay discoverable in search while disallowing AI training
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Stay discoverable in search while disallowing AI training
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Re: Stay discoverable in search while disallowing AI training
#2Cloudflare, enabling the problem and the solution since, how long has it been?
Re: Stay discoverable in search while disallowing AI training
#3A bit too late honestly (?). With so many people who have shifted over to reading AI summaries as a primary search response, those with AI-enabled sites will win by attrition.
There is no going back from this. And the internet is a relatively new phenomenon. Recklessly, blindly applying ads to pages in hopes of generating revenue is a very silly thing to do. Technology with ad blockers and now AI summaries has taken that away. New business models, perhaps actually decent ones are required.
Death of ads everywhere? Good fucking riddance.
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Re: Stay discoverable in search while disallowing AI training
#4What does this new setting actually do? Does it block their IP ranges too, I hope? As if Meta, for instance, is actually going to respect Accountable, via themselves or their partners, quite frankly is eyebrow raising at best.
Re: Stay discoverable in search while disallowing AI training
#5Cloudflare, enabling the problem and the solution since, how long has it been?
(checks watch)
17 years
Fun lava lamp story, though
Re: Stay discoverable in search while disallowing AI training
#6what weirds me out is the analytics
theres no way my index.html page with nothing is getting 10000 hits a day
wtf?
Re: Stay discoverable in search while disallowing AI training
#7what weirds me out is the analytics theres no way my index.html page with nothing is getting 10000 hits a day wtf?
7 per minute.
I use my high school’s website to test Internet connectivity bc the domain is short and they don’t do a TLS redirect (making it easy to detect WiFi portals).
Re: Stay discoverable in search while disallowing AI training
#8> Accountable mixed-use crawlers remain allowed for search. Every other training crawler is blocked, including the training-only crawlers run by Amazon, Anthropic, Meta, and OpenAI — blocking those does not affect search.
> We also categorize the relevant crawlers from Amazon, Anthropic, Meta, and OpenAI as Accountable. These organizations separate their Search and Training crawlers, so Cloudflare can block the Training crawler without affecting search.
I find it difficult to trust that either Meta or OpenAI would use their separate search and training crawlers only for the respective purposes. Their pinky promises have no value, IMO. Both companies are premised on deceptive behaviors.
Re: Stay discoverable in search while disallowing AI training
#9I didn't know websites could opt out of providing data to Google's AI training. Looks Google added support for this via 'Google-Extended' in robots.txt back in 2023:
https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/products/an-update-on-...
Re: Stay discoverable in search while disallowing AI training
#10I wonder if protocols like Web Bot Auth [1] will see wider adoption. At least as a supported mechanism for those bots which identify themselves. The rest probably still have to be treated with Anubis. In my free time I've recently been experimenting with a Web Bot Auth implementation as an Envoy dynamic module [2] to have a way to define some additional policies for the traffic from bots.
[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-webbotauth-https... [2] https://github.com/michalskalski/envoy-web-bot-auth