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Re: Leaving Proton Mail

#13

Post by pogue »

metalman wrote: post #10

There was a brief moment when the Proton CEO published a whole self agrandizing article with pics of himself and the wifey and what selfless people they are, and how she had her own identity and everything, that and all about the servers sitting inside the swiss alps underground, but hey it was free, still is a free add for email services with an almost completely non functional email service behind the adds. I still…

What specifically is broken?

Re: Leaving Proton Mail

#14

Post by JuniperMesos »

qwerpy wrote: post #9
hnaw wrote: post #6

This article is clearly written by someone who doesn't understand how encryption works. > What happens if I log out of all my proton accounts, travel to the other side of the globe, walk into the first library or internet café I find, and log on to mail.proton.me with my username and password? The keys are encrypted to your password, that's how you can access your data maintaining E2EE.

Don't be fooled by the technical-sounding article that leads with software/licensing/product-related rationale but buries the real reason: > After one too many PR scandals though, there was one that I just can't stomach as well as the rest. Which is... The CEO being a Trump man. These are starting to pop up on HN (another example: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49585161 ). Outright political posts get flagged h…

I was disappointed to learn that the article from 404 media about a "Proposed Nuclear AI Data Center" in Ypsilanti, Michigan wasn't actually a data center with an on-site nuclear power generator, just one that Los Alamos is partially funding and will use. Anyway I think the concerns of everyone opposed to data center construction in Ypsilanti mentioned in that article are stupid, I consider 404 media to be poltically hostile to my interests for writing about it with that editorial stance; and certainly linking to it doesn't make me more inclined to view Protonmail unfavorably.

Re: Leaving Proton Mail

#15

Post by sosodev »

Maybe Proton’s copy needs some work, but another page on their website very clearly explains that emails aren’t encrypted when an email leave the ecosystem. Because, as the author points out, they can’t be.

Also, I hate Trump too, but a broken clock is right twice a day. It’s possible to agree with some of the things he says while not being a “Trump man”. Why should we be surprised that the company founded on anti big-tech principles would have a founder who is against big-tech?

I think too that the only way to escape AI-written code in software products is to have written every line yourself. Which is obviously impossible because you’re not going to bootstrap the operating system.

Re: Leaving Proton Mail

#17

Post by Citizen_Lame »

JuniperMesos wrote: post #14
qwerpy wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't be fooled by the technical-sounding article that leads with software/licensing/product-related rationale but buries the real reason: > After one too many PR scandals though, there was one that I just can't stomach as well as the rest. Which is... The CEO being a Trump man. These are starting to pop up on HN (another example: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49585161 ). Outright political posts get flagged h…

I was disappointed to learn that the article from 404 media about a "Proposed Nuclear AI Data Center" in Ypsilanti, Michigan wasn't actually a data center with an on-site nuclear power generator, just one that Los Alamos is partially funding and will use. Anyway I think the concerns of everyone opposed to data center construction in Ypsilanti mentioned in that article are stupid, I consider 404 media to be poltically…

Is this satire, it's hard to tell these days on the Interweb? Or are you simply thick as a brick? Very confusing.

Re: Leaving Proton Mail

#18

Post by Gangway0829 »

Citizen_Lame wrote: post #17
JuniperMesos wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was disappointed to learn that the article from 404 media about a "Proposed Nuclear AI Data Center" in Ypsilanti, Michigan wasn't actually a data center with an on-site nuclear power generator, just one that Los Alamos is partially funding and will use. Anyway I think the concerns of everyone opposed to data center construction in Ypsilanti mentioned in that article are stupid, I consider 404 media to be poltically…

Is this satire, it's hard to tell these days on the Interweb? Or are you simply thick as a brick? Very confusing.

Can you elaborate on why you think the OP is incorrect? The hit piece on the Ypstilanti data center is quite an embarrassment for any honest news reporter.

Re: Leaving Proton Mail

#19

Post by 3stacks »

aryonoco wrote: post #8
claaams wrote: post #3

Disappointing. I'll need to find an alternative. I was hellbent on leaving google so I didn't care where I went.

Moved from Proton to Fastmail a couple of years ago and couldn’t be happier.

I also made this switch a year ago, in part because I'm Australian and so is Fastmail. I miss some of the Proton bells and whistles, and my visionary plan had some great inclusions, but Fastmail is great. I just use the web app on my graphene phone and it works fine
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