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Chopping up books when they're physically too big

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Re: Chopping up books when they're physically too big

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Post by loansindi »

QuantumNomad_ wrote: post #54
moffkalast wrote: post #46

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And you don't even have to hold it open and mess with bookmarks which at least to me was always super annoying. And the built in lamp, chapter search and dictionary. And single tap page forward and back. Physical books are beyond obsolete imho.

> mess with bookmarks I’ve have had enough bookmarks fall out of the book that I have changed my strategy. Instead of using a bookmark I take a photo of the last page I was reading before closing the book. I then add the photo to favourites so it’s easier to find. And then later when I continue to read, I check in my camera roll to see what page I was on. With the current book I am reading I also like to end on the e…

In middle and high school when I was reading my way through my parents' fantasy and scifi collection, I got to a point where I'd just make a note of the page number when I set the book down and was able to recall it next time I sat down to read. I don't remember if I kept that up through college, but I've been reading pretty much exclusively on a kindle since 2010 or so.

Re: Chopping up books when they're physically too big

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Post by duskwuff »

stronglikedan wrote: post #26
spudlyo wrote: post #20

This seems like a lot of work for not a huge payoff. I get that the feel and experience of a physical book has a certain nostalgia, but for me, I'd just leave the big monster on the shelf and grab an epub from Anna's Archive. You have already ensured the author and publisher get paid, you might as well read on an e-reader, which is in my opinion superior in nearly every way to a physical book. Ebooks sync across devi…

The problem with ebooks is that you cannot be 100% certain that you're reading the original text. That can only be preserved in physical copies. That's why the destructive book scanning for AI is such a tragedy. There's already plenty of examples of original texts being surreptitiously revised, and it happens with videos too.

> The problem with ebooks is that you cannot be 100% certain that you're reading the original text.

That's equally true of print books. Misprints happen.

Re: Chopping up books when they're physically too big

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Post by al_borland »

shevy-java wrote: post #50
NoahZuniga wrote: post #30

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This post isn't aimed at people that read a physical book for "nostalgia". They read a lot of books and have already decided that they prefer physical books to an ereader.

That makes no sense to me though. I always prefer physical books to any ereader, but I still stopped accumulating (new) books in my flat - they just accumulate space. I'll always love hardcopy books, but not needing them as a physical hardcopy is just better for me.

You seem to be optimizing for storage space, while others are optimizing for their preferred reading experience.

Re: Chopping up books when they're physically too big

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Post by bithammerthunde »

Are AI companies trying to poison the search index?

Like Boris Johnson did when he had fun times with a model on the campaign bus, then did a bizarre interview when he claimed he made model buses!

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/26/mesmerising...

Re: Chopping up books when they're physically too big

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Post by lolakutty »

shevy-java wrote: post #50
NoahZuniga wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This post isn't aimed at people that read a physical book for "nostalgia". They read a lot of books and have already decided that they prefer physical books to an ereader.

That makes no sense to me though. I always prefer physical books to any ereader, but I still stopped accumulating (new) books in my flat - they just accumulate space. I'll always love hardcopy books, but not needing them as a physical hardcopy is just better for me.

>they just accumulate space..

Can't you dontate them to a library. Or take it from one in the first place..

Re: Chopping up books when they're physically too big

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Post by esperent »

bithammerthunde wrote: post #64

Are AI companies trying to poison the search index? Like Boris Johnson did when he had fun times with a model on the campaign bus, then did a bizarre interview when he claimed he made model buses! https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/26/mesmerising...

Damn, did news articles ~7 years ago really just consist of a series of embedded tweets?

It feels familiar but also kind of jarring.

Re: Chopping up books when they're physically too big

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Post by hamdingers »

bithammerthunde wrote: post #64

Are AI companies trying to poison the search index? Like Boris Johnson did when he had fun times with a model on the campaign bus, then did a bizarre interview when he claimed he made model buses! https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/26/mesmerising...

Or Disney releasing a movie called "Frozen" so that web searches for "Disney Frozen" stopped returning macabre rumors about Walt Disney's possible posthumous cryogenic preservation.

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Post by lolakutty »

spudlyo wrote: post #20

This seems like a lot of work for not a huge payoff. I get that the feel and experience of a physical book has a certain nostalgia, but for me, I'd just leave the big monster on the shelf and grab an epub from Anna's Archive. You have already ensured the author and publisher get paid, you might as well read on an e-reader, which is in my opinion superior in nearly every way to a physical book. Ebooks sync across devi…

>which is in my opinion superior in nearly every way to a physical book.

A physical book, you encounter in physical space. Thus has a lot more chance to get read. The ebook, one has to take a device and press some button, before the book has even a chance of getting seen...

My ebooks typically get downloaded once, and sits forever unread in some device..

A physical book, I take from a lib and gets read automatically, unless it finds its way to the underside of some furniture...

That IMHO nullifies any convience that e-books have..

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Post by robocat »

Rendello wrote: post #36
robocat wrote: post #25

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I'm no polyglot, but talking and reading are very different skills. My personal working theory: Native speakers learn to speak first, then they learn to read and write. From talking with high-level ESOL speakers, those that learned from written material have some very strange patterns of mistakes you can hear in their English - where they've programmed their pronunciation incorrectly very early on with basic mistakes…

I learned French mostly through conversation and immersion. This next language is pretty simple phonologically, and I'm not concerned about having a good accent in it, so the reading-puzzle route is something interesting to try.

Yeah, why you want to know the language strongly matters.

My natural bent is strongly focused on reading and words. Learning by talking and mimicking is not my strength at all.

I suspect that is why I've noticed the pattern that natural mimickers are the ideal language learners (who I would like to emulate).

Although my beliefs are incoherent... I want software that starts with substituted latin letters into a Korean layout that slowly morphs into Korean (maybe choosing words carefully that have been taken from English).

A la Meihem In Ce Klasrum by Dolton Edwards: https://www.ecphorizer.com/EPS/site_page.php?issue=7&page=29

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