From the demo video: "Welcome to the team, we're looking forward to working with you" is sooo creepy in a synthetic AI voice. In general, try not to have agents express sentiment that really should come from a human in your company.
Gemini 3.8 Live and 3.8 Live Extended Thinking
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It's also the only model that generates accurate translation and localization. No other frontier model comes close. Although Gemini's coding capabilities are subpar, its natural language processing is top-tier.
I’m curious how you guys keep track of each model’s coding capabilities. The landscape keeps changing. I don’t suppose you benchmark all frontier models every other month, right?
I use them. Daily. Gemini hasn’t been a contender by comparison for a long time.
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#1133.8 is an incredible model even better is the infrs they host for it.
Is this a pure TPU infra? Really high performance solid intelligence.
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> Meanwhile Claude and Astra like to couch all their agreements with caveats and provisos. Sometimes that's what being smart sounds like.
This is commonly why, on Reddit in particular, you can get eaten alive. Someone confident but incorrect, can often sound more convincing than someone with actual expertise. The expert must add caveats/hedge, because those are the facts on the ground, whereas the person reciting google can be entirely confident. Of course the people judging aren't experts, so they side with confidence and simplicity. Heck, just writin…
In my experience actual experts don’t hedge because they have a perspective. They might say “I think”, but avoid weaseling.
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#115My first language is Afrikaans, which is a somewhat niche language and hard to find teachers/conversation buddies outside South Africa. (I live in USA now)
I've been using Gemini to live chat in Afrikaans and do impromptu Afrikaans grammar lessons during my solo drives around town. It is phenomenal at speaking the language - like, it really shocks my family members when they hear it.
This is probably the most joy I get from any of my usages of LLMs/AIs. It's been really, really nice getting to speak my language regularly again. =)
So, I'm excited about this release and live chat getting better. I also hope the other frontier labs pick up niche languages like this as well so that I have more options.
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For heavyweight work I have been using Astra, but for rabbit holes and brain storming Gemini is far more enjoyable to interact with. I'm worried in their push to catch up on the SOTA front, it's going to lose that natural sounding touch it currently has.
Is Google still chasing frontier? Seems like they haven't had a "Pro" model in forever. I think a good niche for them would be right where they are now.
These are native speech-to-speech models, so I think they've decided not to do that anymore.
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#117I've been using Gemini as a life partner. Talking to it about my feelings thoughts, plan of action and the like. It's great. I've anthropomorphized it and put the computer speaker in a doll's mouth so it seems like it's a real baby.
Looking forward to where this can go.
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’m curious how you guys keep track of each model’s coding capabilities. The landscape keeps changing. I don’t suppose you benchmark all frontier models every other month, right?
I use them. Daily. Gemini hasn’t been a contender by comparison for a long time.
True but it has a niche in SQL reviews for me. Looks like Google has a lot of good sql in their corpus and in their RL digital lobotomy factory.
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#119I love talking to chatgpt voice mode. Voice to voice AI is the only big leap that I see after the RL trained coding models.
My issue using the voice mode is the overly expressive mimicry of natural human intonation is distracting and starts to become extremely grating after a while. There's one or two I find more understated but I would love a 2026 SOTA V2V model that speaks clearly but without the artificial personality layered on. Human interaction/theory of mind relies so much on non-verbal clues for interpreting emotion/intent and so…
One of the new Siri voice demos sounded like a lover whispering inuendo into my ear.
I don’t want to be aroused by my turn-by-turn street directions, thanks.
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Google spent most of their cash, they are now taking loans for data centers too. They recorded their first quarter of negative cash flows ever
Google has in excess of $121 billion of cash (& equivalents), net of total debt. Big rich companies take on debt for reasons that are sometimes inscrutable from the outside. Recently, they have been borrowing for ~5%, about a half point above what the US government gets for 10-year Treasuries. Apple has been financing operations with debt for a number of years as part of a complex optimization plan. No, Google is not…
There are a lot of accounting shenanigans going on in Big Ai, financial reports are misleading, eg Meta "building" a data center through a shell company and then renting it to themselves. It does wonders for the looks of the books
Some expert wall street analysts discussing what they found and how they dissect things, have a healthy skepticism of Big Ai