Gemini is underrated in that it produces the only prose that is somewhat bearable to read.
Gemini 3.8 Live and 3.8 Live Extended Thinking
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#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
None of the startups are profitable. What exactly are they getting beaten at? My advice is to listen less to brainrot 'influencers' that optimise for engagement through sensationalism.
Intelligence. They have "unlimited" resources and has researched AI since the very beginning - PageRank is a form of AI even. And still, Gemini is behind Claude, GPT, Grok, Muse, GLM, Kimi and is maybe on par with DeepSeek? As I said, it is embarrassing.
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Not sure what your comment mean in the context of parent's comment. As opposed to what, them not having it and burning money that isn't their instead like openai and anthropic? At least Google is feeding itself instead of having to create a bubble to stay alive
Google spent most of their cash, they are now taking loans for data centers too. They recorded their first quarter of negative cash flows ever
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#44Gemini is underrated in that it produces the only prose that is somewhat bearable to read.
Lately it became load-bearingly-reality-difficult to not only read, but to comprehend the Claude output
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not sure what your comment mean in the context of parent's comment. As opposed to what, them not having it and burning money that isn't their instead like openai and anthropic? At least Google is feeding itself instead of having to create a bubble to stay alive
Google spent most of their cash, they are now taking loans for data centers too. They recorded their first quarter of negative cash flows ever
Big rich companies take on debt for reasons that are sometimes inscrutable from the outside. Recently, they have been borrowing for ~5%, about a half point above what the US government gets for 10-year Treasuries.
Apple has been financing operations with debt for a number of years as part of a complex optimization plan.
No, Google is not broke.
Re: Gemini 3.8 Live and 3.8 Live Extended Thinking
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
None of the startups are profitable. What exactly are they getting beaten at? My advice is to listen less to brainrot 'influencers' that optimise for engagement through sensationalism.
Intelligence. They have "unlimited" resources and has researched AI since the very beginning - PageRank is a form of AI even. And still, Gemini is behind Claude, GPT, Grok, Muse, GLM, Kimi and is maybe on par with DeepSeek? As I said, it is embarrassing.
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#47When will it be available on Vertex?
vertex is dead, for good reason too
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#48They should just give up at this point, it's just embarrassing to watch. As PrimeTime said; these are the guys that invented the 'T' in 'GPT', that deployed their first TPU in 2015, that is using billions on AI - and they are beaten by 300 people startup named Moonshot AI even. People are going to write books about this complete fumble.
Have you used Google search at all on the past few months? Every single search brings up a live chat prompt. They're serving fast AI to billions of users at huge scale everyday And they're making money doing it. Perhaps they don't have the best coding model right now (although 3.8 flash is arguably SOTA at some benchmarks), but is that the be-all and end-all of AI? Only coding matters?
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#49Gemini is underrated in that it produces the only prose that is somewhat bearable to read.
For heavyweight work I have been using Astra, but for rabbit holes and brain storming Gemini is far more enjoyable to interact with. I'm worried in their push to catch up on the SOTA front, it's going to lose that natural sounding touch it currently has.
Meanwhile Claude and Astra like to couch all their agreements with caveats and provisos.
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#50Gemini's Live Mode is already much better than GPT Voice in my personal experience, even though it was much dumber. It really does feel like talking to a real person. ChatGPT keeps humming to whatever I say and has some weird voices. Excited to try this out! Shame on Google for not releasing Gemini 3.8 for Google AI Plus users yet, though.