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Re: Giving up on smart rings

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Post by happyopossum »

kenniskrag wrote: post #55
dpark wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would a tungsten band increase the chances of degloving your finger? A tungsten band is a lot harder than a gold band. But a gold band is already way harder than your flesh. Jimmy Fallon was wearing a traditional platinum band when he nearly lost his finger. If you want to reduce your risk, you should either not wear a ring or wear a silicone band.

In a hospital, they may need to remove the ring quickly for example, if your finger was injured and begins to swell.

In a hospital setting nobody will be degloving your finger - this is a common situation, and they have pliers that will crack/shatter the tungsten for removal.

Re: Giving up on smart rings

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Post by jerlam »

vablings wrote: post #6
mech998877 wrote: post #4

Is there any way that smart rings outperform smart watches in terms of data collected? I've generally assumed there isn't any biometric data you can get from a finger that you can't get from a wrist.

As far as I know the smart rings are much more accurate than watches but that could just be marketing bollocks from Oura

My Oura Ring picked up on breathing fluctuations that my Garmin did not detect.

However my Oura Ring was also very battery-constrained so it also only looked at heart rate every few minutes. My Garmin measured it every second.

Re: Giving up on smart rings

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Post by jerlam »

nradov wrote: post #42
827a wrote: post #33

The biggest reason should be that they're just bad. They gather sus data from their undersized sensors, then derive tons of sus insights to overwhelm you. None of it is accurate enough to base major life decisions on, which is also laughable because even if it were accurate, there are effectively no major life decisions to make based on the data! Here I can save you $500: Go to bed before midnight. Set your alarm at…

Hey now, you're going to kill the whole fitness tracker industry if you let people in on those secrets.

A lot of people seem to buy fitness trackers merely to verify they sleep poorly, and then do nothing about it.

Re: Giving up on smart rings

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Post by ak6te »

teliskr wrote: post #39

I can understand those pain points, but they don't really bother me. I'm on my 3rd oura ring now and I still like using it. I don't go crazy with the information, but I really do try to get a good night sleep and oura lets me know when I do not. I got married a few years ago and I usually don't like wearing my wedding band around because I worry about loosing it. So I wear the oura ring in place of the wedding band.…

>... oura lets me know when I do not.

Does your body not do the same? I really want to like sleep tracking as a feature, but I find that my body already has built in sleep tracking, and the tech version doesn't give me any actionable advice on how to improve my sleep that my biological sleep tracker isn't already giving me.

Re: Giving up on smart rings

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Post by bluGill »

Terr_ wrote: post #61
Supermancho wrote: post #3

None of these 3 problems have anything to do with it being a smart ring. Same problems that regular rings have, yet people still wear them. 1. Adulting: buying rings that are the right size. eg My tungsten wedding ring cannot be resized either. 2. Most people don't even lift. Those that do, dont mind taking off jewelry. I can see how this would be a problem for someone who wants to wear a smart ring for lifting. Soun…

> Most people don't even lift. Those that do, dont mind taking off jewelry. I dimly recall some folks promoting silicone wedding bands, although at that point I think it's more about social-signalling "I'm in a relationship" rather than a durable memento or signalling wealth.

That is what I wear - when I bother wearing one at all. Or sometimes the cheaper rubber rings, depending on what is in stock at the store. They are cheap enough that I don't worry about losing them. When (not if!) they break I just get a new one. My gold ring stays hidden at home where I don't have to worry about it.

I've never got used to the feel of a ring on my fingers though and now I do without. I know I'm married and girls never "hit on me", so I really don't need it for anything.

Re: Giving up on smart rings

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Post by peab »

dcss_gardener wrote: post #11
Supermancho wrote: post #3

None of these 3 problems have anything to do with it being a smart ring. Same problems that regular rings have, yet people still wear them. 1. Adulting: buying rings that are the right size. eg My tungsten wedding ring cannot be resized either. 2. Most people don't even lift. Those that do, dont mind taking off jewelry. I can see how this would be a problem for someone who wants to wear a smart ring for lifting. Soun…

Most people do not wear tungsten wedding rings. A wedding band can be resized and it's typical to have it resized several times during a long marriage. This is a legitimate downside of smart rings that is only shared with one niche-but-overrepresented-here option.

smart rings aren't meant to last more than a couple years though - the rate of progress on these means that you're more likely going to be paying for a smart ring subscription than a physical object

Re: Giving up on smart rings

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Post by bluGill »

dpark wrote: post #47
monster_truck wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A tungsten wedding ring is a pretty silly/unsafe thing to have. I'll readily admit it's cool but I like my fingers too much to worry about degloving one of them. That said using it as an example of or point of comparison for most anything is pretty unrealistic. Similarly I am not willing to wrap a LiPo battery around one of my fingers. Absolutely not. I suspect this is in part why we have not seen more smartwatch ban…

Why would a tungsten band increase the chances of degloving your finger? A tungsten band is a lot harder than a gold band. But a gold band is already way harder than your flesh. Jimmy Fallon was wearing a traditional platinum band when he nearly lost his finger. If you want to reduce your risk, you should either not wear a ring or wear a silicone band.

Steel toed work boots are almost never allowed to have a steel toe anymore. It is always plastic which is just as strong but it shatters when it breaks so they don't have to uncrush that once they get whatever fell on your toes off.

There are some rare exceptions for specific jobs, see OSHA (or your country equivalent) for the exact rules that apply to you.

Re: Giving up on smart rings

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Post by [deleted] »

monster_truck wrote: post #43
Supermancho wrote: post #3

None of these 3 problems have anything to do with it being a smart ring. Same problems that regular rings have, yet people still wear them. 1. Adulting: buying rings that are the right size. eg My tungsten wedding ring cannot be resized either. 2. Most people don't even lift. Those that do, dont mind taking off jewelry. I can see how this would be a problem for someone who wants to wear a smart ring for lifting. Soun…

A tungsten wedding ring is a pretty silly/unsafe thing to have. I'll readily admit it's cool but I like my fingers too much to worry about degloving one of them. That said using it as an example of or point of comparison for most anything is pretty unrealistic. Similarly I am not willing to wrap a LiPo battery around one of my fingers. Absolutely not. I suspect this is in part why we have not seen more smartwatch ban…

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Re: Giving up on smart rings

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Post by rtkwe »

pastor_williams wrote: post #59
rtkwe wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd question the utility of the data from a ring for weightlifting, cardio sure but just lifting weights there's not a huge need to track your heart rate, you're not moving a lot for steps, etc.

Lifting weights definitely causes your heart rate to change.

Of course it does but it's barely relevant to the goals of the exercise though so tracking it is minimally useful beyond the vague curiosity of cataloging and measuring every moment.
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