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Re: Show HN: An e-ink frame that hears birds and draws them as 1800s illustrations

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Post by joshstrange »

realcul wrote: post #120
joshstrange wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here are the parts I bought, I'm still getting it all setup (I have my pictures displaying, working on designing the 3D printed case now, and testing it all) but according to OpenDisplay's calculator [0] I can expect 3.4 years if I refresh the screen once every 4 hours (and currently I'm doing closer to once a day to mimic my ESP32s which need deep sleep and once-a-day refresh to get even month/months of battery on a…

If I want a wifi e-ink connected display - curious what would you recommend. I want an e-ink display - that I can use as a sign/display board with wifi connectivity and remote administration.

If you want a simple e-ink wifi screen I'd point you at the reTerminal e1001 [0] if that size works for you. It's the easiest to get started with. You can either keep it on power or use the deep sleep to get more from the battery. It really comes down to how often you want to update it.

The BTLE boards have just crazy higher battery time with no need for deep sleep which is why I'm moving in that direction.

~7.5" is the size I've been buying so far, the larger e-ink screens get pricey but I can't wait for a calendar-sized one to come down in price such that I can frame it and hang it on the wall. Lastly I'd avoid the color e-ink screens unless you know you need color, won't need to refresh it often, and it's not in your eye line. Color refreshes take way longer (~30s in my experience for a 5-6 color screen) and the flashing it has to do is obnoxious. Monocolor displays take I also recommend you check out OpenDisplay for what you will run on the device: https://opendisplay.org/index.html

[0] https://www.seeedstudio.com/reTerminal-E1001-p-6534.html

Re: Show HN: An e-ink frame that hears birds and draws them as 1800s illustrations

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Post by coinfused »

arnemunthekaas wrote: post #27
jdiff wrote: post #26

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What is "the new one"? The old one used AI, and this one seems to as well.

Author here: It doesn't, well at least not art-wise. All sources are attributed in https://github.com/arnegiacomo/fugleramme/blob/main/assets/a... and https://github.com/arnegiacomo/fugleramme/blob/main/assets/a...

This is much appreciated! Thanks for making this decision

Re: Show HN: An e-ink frame that hears birds and draws them as 1800s illustrations

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Post by albertgoeswoof »

I built one of these that shows the hacker news front page, nyt front page, my most listened to album of the last 7 days etc.

Refreshes every hour

Battery lasts a few months

Esp32 and a colour eink panel, same as this one I think

Re: Show HN: An e-ink frame that hears birds and draws them as 1800s illustrations

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Post by the_real_cher »

albertgoeswoof wrote: post #124

I built one of these that shows the hacker news front page, nyt front page, my most listened to album of the last 7 days etc. Refreshes every hour Battery lasts a few months Esp32 and a colour eink panel, same as this one I think

That sounds cool! Where did you get your color e-ink panel?

Re: Show HN: An e-ink frame that hears birds and draws them as 1800s illustrations

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Post by tuvix »

divbzero wrote: post #113

The underlying classifier, BirdNET, is a traditional neural network and not an LLM: https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ecoinf.2021.101236

Are there any LLMs being widely used for audio classification? I know VLMs are being used a lot in image stuff.

It always seems kind of silly to me to throw everything at an LLM. I know they’re huge and can automatically handle a huge number of tasks but something in me finds it wasteful when we could be creating easily trainable, cheap to run bespoke models for a lot of stuff

Re: Show HN: An e-ink frame that hears birds and draws them as 1800s illustrations

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Post by originalvichy »

jarek83 wrote: post #94
originalvichy wrote: post #87

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What do you mean specifically? These birdsong analyzers are sensitive enough that they do not rely on setting up a feeder. It’s obviously dependent on where you live, but in the Nordics, living outside city centres is good enough for both background noise and birdsong from nearby trees/parks/forests. Privacy matters aside, setting a mic up on a balcony or window is enough. Another solution is feeding data from a chea…

Well I specifically meant having a bird feeder on a window or glass door for a chance to watch them live closely. That's why I put it as a side note ;) You gave me few ideas for the analyzer setup too - thanks!

Yeah that’s definitely going to be messy. Based on your region, there should hopefully be generic security cams that can even work with a batter and solar. That combined with wifi if it can reach your house can hopefully steer the blast zone way further :D There’s a few TP-Link cameras on discount around 100€ that have 2k res. Feels a lot easier this way rather than taping together a weatherproof box for various components like the Pi and a mic. So far I’ve only used a plug-powered one since I have a IP-rated socket outside and the TP-link cam has a magnet for my wall. Hope you find a nice solution!

Re: Show HN: An e-ink frame that hears birds and draws them as 1800s illustrations

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Post by albertgoeswoof »

the_real_cher wrote: post #125
albertgoeswoof wrote: post #124

I built one of these that shows the hacker news front page, nyt front page, my most listened to album of the last 7 days etc. Refreshes every hour Battery lasts a few months Esp32 and a colour eink panel, same as this one I think

That sounds cool! Where did you get your color e-ink panel?

I got https://www.waveshare.com/13.3inch-e-paper-hat-plus-e.htm from Amazon, about 300 gbp

Re: Show HN: An e-ink frame that hears birds and draws them as 1800s illustrations

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Post by zkmon »

Finally, we solved the problem of converting bird sounds into their pictures without involving human cognition. The great problem and the need had to wait for the great, ultra expensive, data-center-driven AI technology to appear on the horizon. AI is such a good technology that continue to solve many such great problems that humans desperately needed for their survival and progress. All at the a minimal cost of some effect on the climate, which may only slightly quicken the human extinction.

Puzzlingly, no animal species requires AI, which is a mystery that need to be solved by AI.

Re: Show HN: An e-ink frame that hears birds and draws them as 1800s illustrations

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Post by efavdb »

zkmon wrote: post #129

Finally, we solved the problem of converting bird sounds into their pictures without involving human cognition. The great problem and the need had to wait for the great, ultra expensive, data-center-driven AI technology to appear on the horizon. AI is such a good technology that continue to solve many such great problems that humans desperately needed for their survival and progress. All at the a minimal cost of some…

Do you not like AI?
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