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US confirms for first time it has deployed space weapons

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Re: US confirms for first time it has deployed space weapons

#171

I think most of the powerful countries in the world already have space weapons. Space exploration is just a facade for this.

Even space telescopes have been built on the skeletons made for spying, and rockets in almost any form were weapons before they were carrying peaceful missions. That we have Russian, American, and European components communicating together at the ISS is kind of a lovely, if temporary, closure of the circle.

Re: US confirms for first time it has deployed space weapons

#173

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Do you feel any embarassment coming from the previous generation, which set the stage for what we have now? I think it will be much of the same.

I feel resentment and contempt to every previous generation of humans and embarassment for my generation for sure Every human on earth should be embarrassed at the state of the anthropocentric world

I'm proud of our long and amazing climb upwards, from brutality to technological civilization.

Thanks to all our forefathers that have passed their gifts onwards.

Re: US confirms for first time it has deployed space weapons

#174

How long until the CEO of Lockheed Martin comes out asking for a ban on space weapons?

Maybe they'll ask for a "slower pace of development" so it doesn't look as much like they're just asking for new regulatory barriers on their competition.

Re: US confirms for first time it has deployed space weapons

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Rather interesting timing after the US accused China of supplying Iran with high-res imagery used to support attacks on US bases, then a Chinese satellite mysteriously broke apart

Yaogan-50 for anyone asking. Interesting. A bit conspiratorial, but hey. It would be a major provocation if so

A major provocation? "Oh, you deny using your satellites to supply them with imaging? All right, then it wasn't us who blew up your spy satellite that wasn't supplying imaging."

That is, China's in a bit of an awkward position to complain very much.

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> Iran has shown how utterly pointless and ineffective these expensive weapons are. Make no mistake, the US has exercised incredible restraint when it comes to Iran. If it wanted to, they would be nothing left of Iran at all.

Right, so we definitely have the ability to commit genocide, but we lack the ability to dismantle the government without being monsters. To actually do the hard thing that the trump admin wants, we need to send in boots on the ground. And even then, we've seen how totally ineffective that is with Iraq and Afghanistan. Gaza shows this as well. Even with the genocide that Israel is actively committing, Hamas remains. Y…

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Re: US confirms for first time it has deployed space weapons

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I'd like to see evidence which supports the claims and not have to rely on a call to authority fallacy[1] in order to agree with this collective-derived reality. I have no doubt that there are weapons in space - Russian, Chinese, American - why wouldn't there be? - but I still want to see actual evidence. None of the sources you give are impartial - all of them serve to profit from perpetuating fear of Chinese space…

What evidence would satisfy you that there are weapons in space? You either have to check yourself somehow, or trust a third party. Is there a third party you trust to provide evidence?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TP-82

Re: US confirms for first time it has deployed space weapons

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post #8

Space really should be a neutral ground like Antarctica. Especially since the consequences of space debris might trigger the Kessler effect [1], denying humanity future access to low-earth orbit for the considerable future. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome

You don't need to have weapons in orbit for the Kessler Syndrome:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Chinese_anti-satellite_mi...

Re: US confirms for first time it has deployed space weapons

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post #101
post #8

Space really should be a neutral ground like Antarctica. Especially since the consequences of space debris might trigger the Kessler effect [1], denying humanity future access to low-earth orbit for the considerable future. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome

That would likely require basically banning GPS, imaging and communication satellites too, if we get a WW3 I would be shocked if there weren't physical attacks against those assets by anyone with the requisite launch capabilities because they're just that useful to militaries. Maybe it gets relegated mostly to jamming them instead but I'd be surprised if that level of restraint happened.

There are many separate GPS systems and all the big powers know how to jam and work without them. It was one of the first tactics used in Ukraine.

Re: US confirms for first time it has deployed space weapons

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post #171

I think most of the powerful countries in the world already have space weapons. Space exploration is just a facade for this.

Even space telescopes have been built on the skeletons made for spying, and rockets in almost any form were weapons before they were carrying peaceful missions. That we have Russian, American, and European components communicating together at the ISS is kind of a lovely, if temporary, closure of the circle.

From a certain point of view ICBMs are a method of communicating.
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