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Israeli Minister Threatens Filmmakers' Citizenship over Gaza Documentary

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Re: Israeli Minister Threatens Filmmakers' Citizenship over Gaza Documentary

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> meaning that eventually your society will die out. Because birth rates never change. You could also say a constantly growing population isn’t viable because resources are limited and at some point overpopulation leads to a collapse. But usually people adjust

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Because historically low birth rates were the result of diseases, famines or wars but since the birth control pill it’s a decision.

Totally different scenario.

Re: Israeli Minister Threatens Filmmakers' Citizenship over Gaza Documentary

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Some would have been Aryan, but you'd be naive to assume Nazism has exclusively white Aryan followers. And anyway, It doesn't matter. Ethnicity and political beliefs are categorically different things. You're engaging in an antisemitic trope by conflating Israeli and Jewish values.

Oh, come on. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews > Jews, or the Jewish people, are an ethnoreligious group and nation, originating in the Israelites of ancient Israel and Judah. If the US forcibly kicked Jews out of NYC, it'd be ethnic cleansing. No one would contest that description.

Was it ethnic cleansing the way we persecuted and prosecuted Nazis post WW2? Despite them mostly making up and representing the Aryan ethnic group? Zionism is a political position distinctly different to Judaism.

Let me ask you a question - Can we ascribe blame to all Jews if the state of Israel were to do something bad?

Re: Israeli Minister Threatens Filmmakers' Citizenship over Gaza Documentary

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If you have members of your country that think the country is in the wrong and you tell them “then leave the country”… it should be pretty obvious.

It should be pretty obvious what?

It’s generally a fascist viewpoint to say that dissenters should consider leaving the country.

Re: Israeli Minister Threatens Filmmakers' Citizenship over Gaza Documentary

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Oh, come on. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews > Jews, or the Jewish people, are an ethnoreligious group and nation, originating in the Israelites of ancient Israel and Judah. If the US forcibly kicked Jews out of NYC, it'd be ethnic cleansing. No one would contest that description.

Was it ethnic cleansing the way we persecuted and prosecuted Nazis post WW2? Despite them mostly making up and representing the Aryan ethnic group? Zionism is a political position distinctly different to Judaism. Let me ask you a question - Can we ascribe blame to all Jews if the state of Israel were to do something bad?

> Was it ethnic cleansing the way we persecuted and prosecuted Nazis post WW2?

No, just as it wouldn't be ethnic cleansing to evict one Jewish person. We convicted a relatively tiny handful of Nazis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Georg_Kiesinger eventually served as chancellor of West Germany!

> Can we ascribe blame to all Jews if the state of Israel were to do something bad?

Certainly not. But kicking them all out of NYC would still be ethnic cleansing!

Re: Israeli Minister Threatens Filmmakers' Citizenship over Gaza Documentary

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> Can you explain to me how that’s fascism? "We have lots of babies so it can't be fascism" is a really out-there argument I'm having trouble following. It's like posting "Turtle is purple ice cream 203-B"; I don't follow.

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You live in stolen land, surrounded by people that hate you (the number which is growing daily), run by genocidal thugs who are on a fascist death drive. That is non viable, pal.

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Because historically low birth rates were the result of diseases, famines or wars but since the birth control pill it’s a decision. Totally different scenario.

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You live in stolen land, surrounded by people that hate you (the number which is growing daily), run by genocidal thugs who are on a fascist death drive. That is non viable, pal.

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You've just changed your argument?

This was always my argument. They’re very obviously lying but I should have stated that in my original comment. It’s so obvious that they are lying that I forgot to state that was my position.
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