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OpenAI buys smartphone camera maker Glass Imaging for $300M

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Re: OpenAI buys smartphone camera maker Glass Imaging for $300M

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Post by 23sjeh »

ssivark wrote: post #29
fidotron wrote: post #12

Both Apple and Google have dropped the ball enough with the state of recent releases that some iPhone-equivalent-disruption product from the AI industry is becoming conceivable, though I would be surprised if it turns out not to be running Android in some form. Putting a lot of effort into pushing complexity into software to reduce manufacturing complexity is precisely the sort of thing you worry about when you're ge…

The time is ripening to disrupt Android/iOS. The place to start would be to rethink the device around AI. No need for apps or messy integrations with third-party crap. Just a simple device with a great new UX (not typing on a touchpad!) that is slick and does a few things very well (personal agent, coordinating with your personal knowledge base, handling external communications and your interface with the world). Thi…

God people like you are delusional and don’t understand what drives the behaviour of consumers to even prefer apple and its offerings.

Re: OpenAI buys smartphone camera maker Glass Imaging for $300M

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Post by suriyaG »

fifilura wrote: post #55
dspillett wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> someone coded an entire OS with Claude Code I, as someone who would rather leave the industry than become a manager of either people or autonomous agents, or worse just a meat-based relay, am truly obsolete. Do you want fries with that?

I think of this as a baker at the nascence of bread-baking factories. Will you operate the bread baking machine, own a bread factory ($++) or make eco-handmade artisan bread ($--). Or do something completely different? Trade railway shares?

this is a fantastic metaphor. I'm going to borrow it.

Re: OpenAI buys smartphone camera maker Glass Imaging for $300M

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Post by fooker »

fifilura wrote: post #55
dspillett wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> someone coded an entire OS with Claude Code I, as someone who would rather leave the industry than become a manager of either people or autonomous agents, or worse just a meat-based relay, am truly obsolete. Do you want fries with that?

I think of this as a baker at the nascence of bread-baking factories. Will you operate the bread baking machine, own a bread factory ($++) or make eco-handmade artisan bread ($--). Or do something completely different? Trade railway shares?

Clearly the answer is to announce that the baking frontier must slow down. ;)

Bread baking factories could clearly destroy civilization as we know it, create incredible economic inequality, make a permanent underclass, etc etc.

Re: OpenAI buys smartphone camera maker Glass Imaging for $300M

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Post by JKCalhoun »

fidotron wrote: post #12

Both Apple and Google have dropped the ball enough with the state of recent releases that some iPhone-equivalent-disruption product from the AI industry is becoming conceivable, though I would be surprised if it turns out not to be running Android in some form. Putting a lot of effort into pushing complexity into software to reduce manufacturing complexity is precisely the sort of thing you worry about when you're ge…

I suspect Apple and Google can pivot pretty quickly if someone (OpenAI? Ive's company?) comes up with something clever.

But if the LLM isn't local, I'm not buying.

Re: OpenAI buys smartphone camera maker Glass Imaging for $300M

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Post by devindotcom »

what an interesting acquisition. I was the one who wrote them up originally for TC: https://techcrunch.com/2022/03/22/glass-rethinks-the-smartph...

they had a really cool optical approach that I kind of felt immediately was doomed in the consumer market but would likely find a cool, valuable niche. The unique distortion patterns and front element I felt probably ruled out cinema but beyond that I had no idea. looks like they pivoted at some point but their expertise in lens accommodation does seem like it could be helpful.

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Post by iAMkenough »

fidotron wrote: post #30
ungovernableCat wrote: post #26

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I mean by your own logic you can say you're doing the same thing. You think smartphones will get disrupted because you're bored by the mature form factor. I don't see that happening unless the new hardware and the way people interact with it is truly "magical" in some sense. Smartphones as a mature device category have so many things going for them that anything new will likely come as a complement for them (which ap…

> you're bored by the mature form factor. Actually, no. It's the irrelevant changes, such as Liquid Glass, which are the problem, where we all are made to learn new stuff to keep some designers busy. > I don't see that happening unless the new hardware and the way people interact with it is truly "magical" in some sense. But a truly AI enabled interface _would be_ magical. Being able to have a phone where your interf…

The AI enabled interface sounds like an Android launcher I can download to my Android-based phone that I already own. Facebook tried their own Android launcher too.

You want me to buy another Android phone AND proprietary peripherals too? In this economy?

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Post by p_j_w »

ddarolfi wrote: post #41
dktp wrote: post #28

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The issue is getting developers to create apps for a new OS nobody uses (yet). And nobody will use it if they can't have their banking app and uber on it This becomes even tougher if they go the Apple route and don't allow other phone manufacturers to use their OS. Alternatively, if they go down the Windows Phone route, we saw how that played out considering that Google _pays_ manufacturers to use Android Making OS i…

I would be surprised if any AI forward OS is based around applications developed by other people. I imagine the OS will create the software you need. Thing's like banking apps are more difficult, but I imagine OpenAI could sort that out behind the scenes.

Who wants to vibe code all of their phone apps? Vibe coding is cheaper than traditional core, but it certainly isn’t free.

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Post by giancarlostoro »

dktp wrote: post #28
giancarlostoro wrote: post #18

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> though I would be surprised if it turns out not to be running Android in some form. Just yesterday I saw a post I cant recall if on here or reddit, someone coded an entire OS with Claude Code, I would not be surprised if they invest AI compute at building an OS themselves, though I'd never buy a phone from these companies. The person got it running on bare hardware. Found it: https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comme…

The issue is getting developers to create apps for a new OS nobody uses (yet). And nobody will use it if they can't have their banking app and uber on it This becomes even tougher if they go the Apple route and don't allow other phone manufacturers to use their OS. Alternatively, if they go down the Windows Phone route, we saw how that played out considering that Google _pays_ manufacturers to use Android Making OS i…

On the other hand, I'm perfectly fine with a high quality phone OS that has only stock apps out of the box and high quality hardware, good camera, good battery life, reasonable camera app, drastically more curated app store for professional apps, I'd be okay with such a competitor, no more ad spam apps.

I don't think I've seen a phone take over enterprise the way that the Blackberry once dominated, now its either iPhone or Android. You could argue that your executives are safer on a more locked down system. You'd 100% want to get everyone who makes an MFA app or service on your device on the other hand.

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