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Re: Show HN: An e-ink frame that hears birds and draws them as 1800s illustrations

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Post by buffet_overflow »

joshstrange wrote: post #60

e-ink is so much fun, especially when combined with ESP32 or BTLE boards. I currently have 4 around my house displaying book quotes that I've highlighted in KOReader and they bring me joy each time I see them. They are simple and do one thing very well. I just got and setup a BTLE e-ink driver the other day and according to my calculations it will last _years_ on a single charge (2000mAh) even with multiple refreshes…

Years on a wall mounted eink screen sounds super interesting. What are you using for the power delivery/battery side of that setup?

Re: Show HN: An e-ink frame that hears birds and draws them as 1800s illustrations

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Post by arnemunthekaas »

jiwidi wrote: post #18
arnemunthekaas wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Original author here. Fair point, this project was one of my inspirations, but I chose to take a different approach. This uses public domain natural history art and builds on top of BirdNET-Go which is a popular way of self-hosting bird-detections. (This is really a BirdNET-Go companion, as it cannot run without). I've seen other similar projects pop up like https://github.com/veteranbv/inky-bird-frame and https://gi…

That's fair, and I totally get wanting to give it your own spin. I still think it would be good to acknowledge the original project that sparked the idea, especially now that you've mentioned it was one of the inspirations. Definitely keep going with yours and evolve it further. That's how good projects grow. But for a healthy open source community, I think we should make a point of crediting the people whose work in…

Added, see README. Thanks for the feedback!

Re: Show HN: An e-ink frame that hears birds and draws them as 1800s illustrations

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Post by hnbad »

arnemunthekaas wrote: post #42
jiwidi wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's fair, and I totally get wanting to give it your own spin. I still think it would be good to acknowledge the original project that sparked the idea, especially now that you've mentioned it was one of the inspirations. Definitely keep going with yours and evolve it further. That's how good projects grow. But for a healthy open source community, I think we should make a point of crediting the people whose work in…

Thanks, I’ll do that, and ofc link to this beautiful poster I have that actually originally sparked the idea: https://www.axelthorenfeldt.com/news/wwf-verdens-naturfonds-...

Contrary to the Great Man version of how we mostly talk about history, scientific discoveries, technological breakthroughs and such have historically often occurred multiple times in multiple places often in close proximity time-wise but otherwise completely unrelated to each other. This of course makes sense if you consider that history seems to be primarily driven by material conditions (e.g. steam engines were known to Ancient Greece but their usefulness for industry simply hadn't occurred to them because they lacked the prerequisites to make them useful and neither economic efficiency nor access to cheap labor were significant enough concerns - plus there was no patent system of course).

I'll leave it up to you to decide whether one should expect the demographic of this website to be especially invested in the Great Man narrative but trying to convince them that two people can independently have similar-sounding ideas involving similar-but-different technology is probably an uphill battle. Just be glad you're not composing music for a living because there's literally an entire industry built around the idea that it's impossible for two people to come up with similar melodies without knowingly or unknowingly copying eachother and that it's very important that one of them (or rather the company they had to sign a deal with in order to make any money off their music at all) 100% owns that exact melody and should be paid by anyone who wants to use it.

Next time you have an idea you should just file a patent tbh - the insistence on prior art invalidating the work seems to be quite similar but at least if you're granted a patent you can shake down "copycats" for money.

Re: Show HN: An e-ink frame that hears birds and draws them as 1800s illustrations

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Post by zubiaur »

nsbk wrote: post #30

Very cool, but IMO not mentioning https://theodore.net/projects/AvianVisitors/ as an inspiration is a very ugly move from the author

I thought it was the same person. That is how close this project is. Inspiration may be too soft of a word.

Re: Show HN: An e-ink frame that hears birds and draws them as 1800s illustrations

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Post by ninefathom »

While I love this idea generally, the scope of the use of generative AI for artwork is too vague for my comfort.

The README.md mentions that "no art is AI-generated, though some has been retouched with AI." Superficially, that sounds mild. Some of the other closely-related projects, however, use different verbiage, or none at all.

For those of us with ethical concerns around generative AI application to artwork, much more detail may be needed before we could decide if this was appropriate for us.

Re: Show HN: An e-ink frame that hears birds and draws them as 1800s illustrations

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Post by hirako2000 »

ninefathom wrote: post #79

While I love this idea generally, the scope of the use of generative AI for artwork is too vague for my comfort. The README.md mentions that "no art is AI-generated, though some has been retouched with AI." Superficially, that sounds mild. Some of the other closely-related projects, however, use different verbiage, or none at all. For those of us with ethical concerns around generative AI application to artwork, much…

Could be for the montage. Is that unfair to say no AI generated the arts, but that AI put individual pieces together?
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