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Suspected sabotage causes major Netherlands rail disruption

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Re: Suspected sabotage causes major Netherlands rail disruption

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Post by happosai »

paganel wrote: post #142
apt-get wrote: post #3

Just days after a similar (criminal) incident causing a train to derail in France: https://www.lemonde.fr/en/france/article/2026/09/12/french-p... "close to Renault's factory in the town of Cléon", which is now preparing to start manufacturing drones for the French military, in collaboration with Ukrainian military-industrial groups.

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Of course, the only reason wild berries got hit is because Putin started the war. The only reason why why Russians (and Russian speaking Ukrainians) are dying in large numbers is Putin.

The pro-russian historic fanfiction asserts that "Putin was forced to war or NATO would have expanded to ukraine or something"

There is no conceivable scenario where Russians would have worse safety than what Putin's decision caused. Heck, the long range drones attacking Russia today would simple not exist.

People say trump is Putin's stooge, but honestly Putin looks like a western plant. Nobody else since Stalin has killed as many Russians than Putin.

Re: Suspected sabotage causes major Netherlands rail disruption

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Post by ajsnigrutin »

raverbashing wrote: post #73
barrenko wrote: post #24

As a european, for the love of god, can we address any single of our concerns by either the national or the supranational government? It seems as if one ambiguates the other.

No, it seems governments can only ignore the concerns then complain the 'alt-right' parties get voted

...or blame russia!

(Some media literally blamed putin because people voted for afd in the recent state election in germany).

Re: Suspected sabotage causes major Netherlands rail disruption

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Post by pestatije »

CrzyLngPwd wrote: post #135

Came for the news for nerds, got a blog from the BBC propaganda machine. Anyway, I am surprised the BBC blogger didn't add north koreans and some linked it to porn on the internet.

the railway was hacked with a metal tube... perfectly suited news

Re: Suspected sabotage causes major Netherlands rail disruption

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Post by themaninthedark »

bo0tzz wrote: post #72
ricardobeat wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You think farmers are willing to risk the murder of hundreds of their fellow countrymen as a form of protest? That’s plain terrorism.

Yes, they've already murdered people by causing accidents on the highway.

Are we allowed to call it terrorism now? Or just when it is farmers? I know that both climate activists and BLM have disrupted highways as well....

Re: Suspected sabotage causes major Netherlands rail disruption

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Post by cbg0 »

crazybonkersai wrote: post #182
cbg0 wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And are these multiple sources 50% biased towards one side and 50% biased towards the other side? If so, how can you tell? And are you doing an average of what "the truth" is at the end?

You wait for 20 or more years for documents become unclassified and historians to do their job.

So in the meantime you have no real opinion about anything?

Re: Suspected sabotage causes major Netherlands rail disruption

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Post by paganel »

pestatije wrote: post #158
paganel wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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its been mentioned ad-nauseam that wildberries also sells to the military... where have you been hiding?

> also sells to the military... where have you been hiding?

And the Western-built railway system has been used for war/military reasons since its very inception (almost), it's how Prussia got the best over the Habsburgs at Sadowa in the 1860s. One could also say that Tsarist Russia not yet having a rail connection to Crimea just before that caused them to be defeated against the Western incursion at Sevastopol.

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Post by Aromasin »

pibaker wrote: post #172
pprotas wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Likely organized by farmer protest groups (FDF for example) to protest against emission restriction regulation. They are known for their dangerous stunts, including driving their tractors on the highway and spraying manure on government buildings. These actions are tolerated by the Dutch police, which willingly and purposefully refuses to punish these acts.

It's crazy how much deference is given to farmers compared to every other occupation. If the garbage men started dumping the contents of garbage bags in public places I bet they will not be given a free pass.

Look to Birmingham in the UK for evidence of the same deference. Many have been on strike since 2025. The city was a rat infested public waste dump for nearly 3 months until the government hired private firms to do the waste handling while the public worker strike action continued.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025%E2%80%932026_Birmingham_b...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqxlxv0vvnxo

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Post by birdsongs »

sedan_baklazhan wrote: post #119
birdsongs wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you mean here? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukrai... Or here, where Russia just annexed parts of Europe? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Ukrainian_war Or perhaps one of the hundreds of instances in: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_sabotage_operations_in... Or, what do you mean? Any non-state-propaganda supporting your claim?

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> Europe is not a country

I'm just using your own words, my dude:

> It seems like Russia is everything Europeans think about daily.

>Every each case when Ukraine has used European weapons to attack Russia; also every case when European countries seized Russian ships.

It's not an attack when you're defending against an invasion. Go take your weak propaganda-farm talking points elsewhere.

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Post by embedding-shape »

toyg wrote: post #180
embedding-shape wrote: post #164

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Please, do suggest this to any of these environmental activism groups and see how they'll laugh at you. You seriously think these people think like that??

People fuck up, man. They don't plan to, but they do.

"Fucking up" in terms of "accidentally derailed a train more than wanted"? Sure, I used to do that too when I was a teenager...
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