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Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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WarmWash wrote: post #621
Dylan16807 wrote: post #593

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And when the creator decided to make that free to access, it's improper for a company to throw up a wall in front of it.

I think you might be confused, because any creator can make their content free to access. If they are playing in someone else's house, yeah there might be rules they don't like, but it's also not their house. Nothing stops creators from self-hosting and absorbing the full cost themselves.Yt doesn't even care if you link to your own hosted version of the video on their platform.

It used to be that when your house is the size of a city or even country that it isn't just your house anymore and you don't get to set the rules on your own. When a platform becomes big enough it should be treated more like a utility and a startup.

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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Plont wrote: post #759
redeeman wrote: post #747

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then your understanding seems to be quite limited :)

what even was the point of typing that? it just reads as kindergarten bully on an ipad.

dont see how its bullying? someone is demonstrating a very childish point of view , almost to the point of preaching. which I would say a little bit of critical thinking says is otherwise. why else would so many want xcancel in the first place?

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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layla5alive wrote: post #911
wolrah wrote: post #459

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> The problem companies have is that "doesn't suck" generally means "it's free with no ads". I feel like way too many people forget that there was a great middle ground for the longest time, in the form of Google AdWords. Text only, no animations, flash, iframes serving malware, or any of the other bullshit that had already taken over banner ad networks like Doubleclick at the time. I recall at the time one of the ea…

Scalar Monomania (profit maximization in this case) is the root of so much evil :/

It's usury that's the root of this evil. Always has been. Whether it's private equity or public shareholders, when you have someone getting more and more money for simply putting in money then that value has to be extracted from somewhere.

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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vladgur wrote: post #406
trey-jones wrote: post #221

Regardless of the legality of the service: I always use xcancel instead of X. I don't have a twitter account and I don't want to sign in. I just occasionally want to read what some people had to say about something. Even this is usually a mistake. It's probably better taken as entertainment. My point is: companies stop making your product suck, and people won't have a reason to try and fix it for you.

You want to read what service XYZ offers, but you dont want to do it within the constraints of service XYZ. If you dont want to follow the constraints of service XYZ, you dont have to consume its content. The market would dictate that if X content consumers found it too inconvenient to consume from X and that would result in a significant drop in demand, the X content producers would stop producing their content on X…

> you dont have to consume its content

That's the issue though, it's not Twitter's "content" and I'm not trying to "consume" it. I want to be able to read and see what others including public official and primary sources for ongoing events have to say. That they are on twitter is coincidental and generally only because Twitter has captured the "public square". That doesn't make what's posted on there theirs anymore than the postal service owns the letters you send.

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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Post by psd1 »

abustamam wrote: post #867
kalleboo wrote: post #853

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I remember when you paid your ISP for internet access and in that cost they also provided you with an e-mail address, they ran a Usenet server for their customers, and gave you space for web hosting. Now all of that is expected to be paid for with ads instead.

Im too young to remember this but it would be an interesting idea if ISPs paid website hosts (kinda like cable companies pay networks based on viewership) The privacy implications of this are many, but the idea itself could be interesting.

That battle was called "net neutrality", and the reason we who lost it fought it was to prevent web 2.0 becoming a set of giant moated properties.

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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Post by account42 »

zx8080 wrote: post #813
trey-jones wrote: post #221

Regardless of the legality of the service: I always use xcancel instead of X. I don't have a twitter account and I don't want to sign in. I just occasionally want to read what some people had to say about something. Even this is usually a mistake. It's probably better taken as entertainment. My point is: companies stop making your product suck, and people won't have a reason to try and fix it for you.

> My point is: companies stop making your product suck, and people won't have a reason to try and fix it for you. What an idealistic nonsense. Companies do anything not for people, but for money. We are not living in a socialist utopia (fortunately!).

Companies also have to stay within the bounds determined by the rest of our society. For example just dumping your waste in the next river is more profitable than disposing it responsibly but its bad for everyone so we don't let companies do that.
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