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Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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People said Devin, the AI coding agent, was garbage in 2024. Now it's weird if an agent isn't writing 99% of your code. So you're right to be skeptical as of September 2026. But September 2028? It might just be weird to run companies without AI management.

I don’t know a single developer who has an agent write 99% of their code. Is that the norm outside of my bubble?

I'm seeing another team doing this, with 99% agents, and quality, predictability of delivery and raw performance have taken a massive nosedive.

But even not caring about quality: Speed of development is abysmal. It was never something this team had anyway, they were always slow. So they don't care that they take a year and 20 people to do what another startup in the same space was able to deliver in a few months with a skeleton crew (and perhaps more quality).

To me the experiment has shown the results it should. It's self-serving to developers, and amplifies the good and the bad in them. It's not particularly good to users and not to companies if the developers aren't good themselves.

Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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post #437

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People said Devin, the AI coding agent, was garbage in 2024. Now it's weird if an agent isn't writing 99% of your code. So you're right to be skeptical as of September 2026. But September 2028? It might just be weird to run companies without AI management.

> Now it's weird if an agent isn't writing 99% of your code. It is? Are you sure that this is a representative reading that applies to more than just a tiny bubble?

It's probably 99.99%.

99% means I write 1 line for every 100 AI lines. It's probably 1 human line for every 10,000 AI lines right now.

Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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post #437

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People said Devin, the AI coding agent, was garbage in 2024. Now it's weird if an agent isn't writing 99% of your code. So you're right to be skeptical as of September 2026. But September 2028? It might just be weird to run companies without AI management.

> Now it's weird if an agent isn't writing 99% of your code. It is? Are you sure that this is a representative reading that applies to more than just a tiny bubble?

Everyone I have talked to who uses coding agents at all now uses them to write almost all their code.

The two people I know who don’t use coding agents work in government, and in a data science company working with government.

I’d say if you work at a tech company and agents aren’t writing the majority of your code, that is weird. But if you work at a traditional company that doesn’t have Claude or Codex subscriptions, there it might be pretty normal to still be writing code by hand.

Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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post #427

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“Modal” is a word. The AI brainrot is real.

You can’t definitively say that using AI is making people stupid. It could as well be that stupid people are drawn towards using AI.

AI is just another way to not use your brain, I think there’s plenty of consensus around the fact that not using your brain makes you dumber. So actually, yes you can say that definitely.

Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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Part of the issue is that the worst kind of people are already head over heels excited about this. We're already seeing the Crypto->Web3->LLM get rich quick folks take to this like wildfire. And much like wildfire, they'll raze the ground to ashes before anyone can use it for legitimate means. If you think I'm joking, check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-Rqv9dOB1U I don't think any of us are ready for th…

I’m not on normal social media so I had no idea that stuff was out there. Absolutely incredible trolling from some of those people I’m sure, while others are actual believers

Prosperity gospel for the non-religious, basically.

Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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post #437

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> Now it's weird if an agent isn't writing 99% of your code. It is? Are you sure that this is a representative reading that applies to more than just a tiny bubble?

Everyone I have talked to who uses coding agents at all now uses them to write almost all their code. The two people I know who don’t use coding agents work in government, and in a data science company working with government. I’d say if you work at a tech company and agents aren’t writing the majority of your code, that is weird. But if you work at a traditional company that doesn’t have Claude or Codex subscription…

My (arguably not very directly communicated, true) actual point is that "weird" is a term that is not really suited for tool choices like this.

"Weird" is a social concept. It's an artifact that has its roots in social cohesion and friction induced by individual nodes to glue the group together.

Software development otoh is an engineering discipline (or.. it should be). And Engineering does not use the local social consensus algorithm for determining correctness. (or.. it should not)

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