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Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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4. Click the link 5. Accept that you won't click on the link

Congratulations, Elon Musk has just forced you to either feed his propaganda machine or successfully locked you out of the conversation.

You mean like Zuck prevents me from seeing any Instagram content without login?

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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You've moved the goalpost. The internet is happy to create alternatives. Network effects mean it's VERY hard to change the default social network once it's established. I hate using facebook marketplace, but over the past 6-ish years everybody in my city has moved off craigslist to marketplace - so now I use marketplace because otherwise I can't sell my shit. Am I the problem? - also, an aside, but threads has 400 mi…

>Am I the problem? Is the person who stays home and doesn't vote the problem? Network effects are strong, but trends can absolutely upend them with disruptions. This is much harder nowadays, because for each user who refuses ads or a subscription, your VC runway needs to be that much longer, or your megacorp parent (meta) needs to sustain you. My core point is that if the internet hates the current status quo, they n…

This isn’t voting, i’m just trying to sell or buy some crap. For a while I listed stuff both places. In your voting analogy i guess i was voting third party? After a few dozen times where the only responses were from marketplace - i moved on.

Blaming people for doing what’s simplest, is just a way to feel smug and superior.

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

#883

Regardless of the legality of the service: I always use xcancel instead of X. I don't have a twitter account and I don't want to sign in. I just occasionally want to read what some people had to say about something. Even this is usually a mistake. It's probably better taken as entertainment. My point is: companies stop making your product suck, and people won't have a reason to try and fix it for you.

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Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

#884

Regardless of the legality of the service: I always use xcancel instead of X. I don't have a twitter account and I don't want to sign in. I just occasionally want to read what some people had to say about something. Even this is usually a mistake. It's probably better taken as entertainment. My point is: companies stop making your product suck, and people won't have a reason to try and fix it for you.

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??? Have you never tried to visit X on a mobile device? Functional is far from what I'd call it, given that you can't see replies to the tweet or indeed do much else on the site

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

#885

Regardless of the legality of the service: I always use xcancel instead of X. I don't have a twitter account and I don't want to sign in. I just occasionally want to read what some people had to say about something. Even this is usually a mistake. It's probably better taken as entertainment. My point is: companies stop making your product suck, and people won't have a reason to try and fix it for you.

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By functional do you actually mean impossible to use?

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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> users that will likely never sign up to X, but who want to read/watch some content They probably don't want their echo chamber leaking to the wider internet, because external discussion of the content would reveal it for the siloed thought bubble that it is. Consider X now requires personal information to sign up, and after handing that info over, signups are often still rejected with no explanation given. Yet anot…

FWIW, X is far less of an echo chamber than Bluesky, Truth Social or Reddit. They're simply doing this to boost engagement and break scrapers.

I quit Twitter because a lot of the people I followed also quit so the site lost relevance/interest, but mainly because those who stay were turning slowly but steadily into something the network was clearly pushing. The force pushing of Elon twits into my timeline was too obvious, and once noticed that I noticed other less obvious pushes and even more insidious, silencing people I was interested in reading but suddenly their twits no longer pop in my timeline. I needed to go to their profile to read their twits.

In short, Twitter was actively pushing me into an echo chamber, even when my follows were diverse. Bluesky, Truth Social or Reddit are users that usually want to be in that echo chamber. At least bans are very notorious there, and not shadowbans/algorithm silencing while Elon says "I am a free speech absolutist".

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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I do not "immensely" benefit from free access to servers that will relay public microposts. I don't think my accesses even cost X a dollar per year. I would happily step in with my own server to replace 10x or even 100x the server resources I consume if it was possible. And if it was actually expensive they should be jumping at a way to make it possible.

I remember when you paid your ISP for internet access and in that cost they also provided you with an e-mail address, they ran a Usenet server for their customers, and gave you space for web hosting. Now all of that is expected to be paid for with ads instead.

Im too young to remember this but it would be an interesting idea if ISPs paid website hosts (kinda like cable companies pay networks based on viewership)

The privacy implications of this are many, but the idea itself could be interesting.

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

#888

Regardless of the legality of the service: I always use xcancel instead of X. I don't have a twitter account and I don't want to sign in. I just occasionally want to read what some people had to say about something. Even this is usually a mistake. It's probably better taken as entertainment. My point is: companies stop making your product suck, and people won't have a reason to try and fix it for you.

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Well, I do not have an account and when I open any profile on it right now, I cannot read it properly. I cannot click on posts. I cannot read replies. I cannot open images.

In my opinion, that is quite far from "functional".

Such a behavior alone is a sufficient justification, in my opinion, for the services like xcancel to exist.

And if the X social network does not want their content to be publicly available, fine. They are free to gate it behind a login.

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

#889

I think XCancel should use their momentum and set up their own social media network, instead of scrapping the domain.

Suggestion: Every time someone uses nitter, the post in question is copied over to Mastodon and subsequent accesses just redirect to the copied post. That way you can interact with the copy on Mastodon.

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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Researchers use whatever tools are available, you cannot complaint about imperfect methodology when Elon refuses to provide researchers access to their APIs in order to do a better job at assessing the state of the system. But for whatever it's worth I had made a new account around the same time and my experience was very similar to what was reported.

I don’t see why I can’t complain about unsupported conclusions derived from poor methodology. X doesn’t owe anyone API to run social research, but especially not activist groups with an active, expressed interest in denigrating the platform.

Again, Comcast is not an "activist group" and the study literally got awarded by the Royal Statistical Society.

As a cherry on top, they do owe researchers in the EU (though this was done in the UK, I know Sky has an EU presence as well) API access or similar under Article 40 of the DSA.

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