Reading this thread is like watching the Irish start roasting and eating their excess children immediately after Swift modestly proposed the idea.
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#372> The thing we considered the most troubling was whether AIs could autonomously acquire resources by running businesses. So we decided to build that to validate and confirm our fears.
I get your point, but it’s obvious that everybody is going to do this. So building a benchmark isn’t likely to directly move capabilities. OTOH it might give some good signals on required changes in training recipes.
People are still debating the liabilities associated with AI development.
If your agent hacks the CIA, people want to blame the AI lab.
but...
If your agent spends $100k on tokens, then thats a user error. If your agent spends $10m on a shopping spree, then that is also a user error?
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#373Admittedly these are out of order, but these are both sentences in this blog post: > The thing we considered the most troubling was whether AIs could autonomously acquire resources by running businesses. > Today Andon is releasing Pion, an agent designed to run any company fully autonomously. I’m starting to understand the torment nexus mentions…
It’s the story of how open AI and Anthropic were founded: “AI is probably going to destroy humanity, so we must be the ones to develop it because we’ll do it safely”.
Edit: Which makes their “someone hold us back!” calls even more ironic.
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#374Correct me if I'm wrong but a human will be able to cut through the noise with quirky advertising, new/novel distribution methods, etc. Most of the bottleneck in business isn't building the things or sourcing, it's mostly advertising/sales. These specifically require doing something unique or interesting. Sure, maybe LLMs can help with fulfillment or operations, but distribution still remains the hard part.
>> Most of the bottleneck in business isn't building the things or sourcing, it's mostly advertising/sales. That may also change with llms - they can help the buyers compare every product available, and find the best.
Is the LLM going to order all the shower caps produced by Chinese factories and try them out?
Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously
#375Admittedly these are out of order, but these are both sentences in this blog post: > The thing we considered the most troubling was whether AIs could autonomously acquire resources by running businesses. > Today Andon is releasing Pion, an agent designed to run any company fully autonomously. I’m starting to understand the torment nexus mentions…
It’s the story of how open AI and Anthropic were founded: “AI is probably going to destroy humanity, so we must be the ones to develop it because we’ll do it safely”. Edit: Which makes their “someone hold us back!” calls even more ironic.
I think it's a legal issue.
If you don't develop killer AI then no one will legislate against it and someone else will create it and do evil.
If you create killer AI you can try to instigate legislation, but the legislators may not agree to help.
Necessity is the mother of invention, or you know, all of our laws and regulations.
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#376Correct me if I'm wrong but a human will be able to cut through the noise with quirky advertising, new/novel distribution methods, etc. Most of the bottleneck in business isn't building the things or sourcing, it's mostly advertising/sales. These specifically require doing something unique or interesting. Sure, maybe LLMs can help with fulfillment or operations, but distribution still remains the hard part.
skills/advertising_and_sales.md skills/novel_distribution.md skills/unique_and_interesting.md Naive to think you can't reduce these to instructions.
Until I read some of the responses, I misread your message as saying "naive to think you CAN reduce these to instructions" and thought "Well obviously. That's not insightful." Eventually I reread your message to realize you were saying the opposite.
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#380Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm sure it can't. A competent marketer can make good use of it but vibecoders just create slop nobody wants to read.
You're describing most people. Most people (99.9%) can't come up with novel ideas either. They just follow the latest trend. Art, marketing, music, etc. If you've spent any time in the creative spaces, you'll realize most people don't really have much talent. Skill, sure, but that only gets you as far as someone else's latest idea.
Honestly growing up, I always assumed everyone could be creative. Until I started asking people to randomly create a name for a fictional character.
Blows my mind how many people won't or can't do it.