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Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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Expect the 6AM layoff email to get rid of all meatbags, sent by the agent. J/K, scary as several studies have indicated they werent able to keep a vending machine profitable. Anyway, ... I do think a large amounf of tasks can be automated, though i believe supervision remains necessary for most. Especially when process can be externally influenced by injection. People can be influenced, but are (slightly) more judgem…

profitable without the cost of tokens, gpus or the machine itself lol

Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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Waitlist btw: https://andonlabs.com/pion#waitlist

Your bot you call a 'manager' can't actually do anything. You are selling ali-express drop shipped (probably filled with heavy metals) protein for $50.00 (why)?

You're in here actually running the company.. It seems like you have no product, a wrapper maybe.

See the reason you're in here running the company, sharing this link is because humans inherently value the social connection derived from "doing business". Pivot while you can, because this simply is not a paradigm anybody wants. You should read up on commodity fetishism.

Every company that attempts a strategy of full autonomy will automatically get out competed by the human ran company. For many different reasons, but mostly because its rather cheap and lacking any meaning. Even if you had an AI that was capable of doing so (you don't), people want human connection, they want the meaning behind things. We don't do business just for the sake of producing pieces of paper..

I would argue half the reason to have "businesses" is to employee your fellow community members, a tide that lifts all boats so you can live in a decent society. There's so missing here. You llm grifters are really losing the plot, not everything is about money (even if we would like it to be).

The Sovereign Individual???

Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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> The thing we considered the most troubling was whether AIs could autonomously acquire resources by running businesses. So we decided to build that to validate and confirm our fears.

I get your point, but it’s obvious that everybody is going to do this. So building a benchmark isn’t likely to directly move capabilities. OTOH it might give some good signals on required changes in training recipes.

Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I am somewhat surprised to see some of the errors current models make given their intelligence They have no intelligence. These are very very very refined prediction engines. > A common set is having Claude take some product photos and turn them into lifestyle ones using ChatGPT via Claude in Chrome. It's a pretty well-honed workflow at this point, but it'll still return images where the product is obviously not co…

> They have no intelligence. These are very very very refined prediction engines. Silly and pointless criticism. Why do the semantics of the word intelligence matter? Also, you need to understand that language evolves over time, and people often use a word to describe a thing that is newly discovered or invented that's similar to the word being used, because it's a helpful way of describing it that the listener will…

I know people who have run this experiment, with companies in the 7figs ARR, indie devs. Both of them have reverted to hiring humans.

Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Downvote if you want, but this is a very relevant question. If their marketing is to be believed, they would be eating their own dog food. This very analog to the Meta executives who won't let their own kids near social media.

there seems to be a massive negativity to any comment on this story. Andolabs has been doing super interesting stuff, and I’ve always followed Vend Bench with interest. as a founder it really is a dream to automated more of the business and be able to iterate faster.

If you automate a business heavily, it will fail. At least in the sense you people seem to be imagining. You can get away with this at a factory (kind of, but you'll also be out competed by your local community, you won't get tax breaks for hiring people your competitor will, and new types of taxes will be developed to punish you). We reward human collaboration as a society for a reason and punish extreme selfishness, these efforts will fail.

Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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Admittedly these are out of order, but these are both sentences in this blog post:

> The thing we considered the most troubling was whether AIs could autonomously acquire resources by running businesses.

> Today Andon is releasing Pion, an agent designed to run any company fully autonomously.

I’m starting to understand the torment nexus mentions…

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